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10/24/2012 9:45:18 PM
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How did master chief kill the flood?
How did they contain the Flood so well in CE 2 and 3? I remember the flood could board ships and stuff how did they get them all into one place at one time to explode that halo and finish them off? Also, do you think Bungie handled the whole "Flood are super important while covenant are second" thing well because it seemed the same formula in each game, you are fighting covenant then suddenly "the flood are here to make everything gross! run!" and then you blow something up.
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I think inhaling spores just takes a bit longer to turn you while infection forms drastically speed up the process. I also think the amount of spores that enter you is a big factor, as in the motion comic streamed on Waypoint recently the marines became flood like a minute after getting cut by their claws. But that brings up the question, how was the flood destroyed? There has to be at least a couple flood spores laying around, or neglected flood infected ships. Why would Gravemind do something so mindless as to pack every single trace of flood into a single area so they could be collectively obliterated? Maybe Halo 4/5 will address this. It says on the wiki if a single flood spore lands on a planet with life, it will start to multiply and terraform the ground and grow flood growth pods like you can see happening in the multiplayer map in Halo 3. [Edited on 10.29.2012 12:00 PM PDT]
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The world may never know!
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With a gun - Parson Staffer
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tjal [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GhostLink2401 You don't get infected by inhalation. The "Spores" are the same thing as infection forms. R'Tas was just using a simpler word, as Elites tend to do. (They're rather primitive when it comes to wordplay) That or the UNSC translation programs translate the Sangheli word for "Infection form" as Spore.[/quote] [url=http://www.halopedia.org/Flood_spore]Boom.[/url][/quote] I'm sorry but the picture is a higly magnified version of a spore which is similar to an infection form, but way smaller. Spores are airborn (as you can see in the description). Please please please please read the forerunner trilogy books about those pets of the humans/ prophets that got infected... Spores =/= infection forms.[/quote] I was aware.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tjal [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] raven7641 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Judge Bread I Only the Halo's stop the Flood but even then they've been fired once already and we still have Flood.[/quote] Wrong. The humans developed a cure for the flood before the forerunners DE-evolved them. I would bet this will somehow factor into how the new trilogy plays out. An ancient evil returns, ancient knowledge discovered. Wouldn't surprise me if they do it again.[/quote] There is a theory that the "cure" is not a cure, but merely the flood ignoring the humans because they were worthy (hence the forerunners were not)[/quote] I've read that. Seems like a lie to make them look away from that. Majority of Flood biomass destroyed, and they left because they wanted too...doubt it. They never stated if he lied to them. He did before.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] raven7641 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Judge Bread I Only the Halo's stop the Flood but even then they've been fired once already and we still have Flood.[/quote] Wrong. The humans developed a cure for the flood before the forerunners DE-evolved them. I would bet this will somehow factor into how the new trilogy plays out. An ancient evil returns, ancient knowledge discovered. Wouldn't surprise me if they do it again.[/quote] There is a theory that the "cure" is not a cure, but merely the flood ignoring the humans because they were worthy (hence the forerunners were not)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Judge Bread I Only the Halo's stop the Flood but even then they've been fired once already and we still have Flood.[/quote] Wrong. The humans developed a cure for the flood before the forerunners DE-evolved them. I would bet this will somehow factor into how the new trilogy plays out. An ancient evil returns, ancient knowledge discovered. Wouldn't surprise me if they do it again.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GhostLink2401 You don't get infected by inhalation. The "Spores" are the same thing as infection forms. R'Tas was just using a simpler word, as Elites tend to do. (They're rather primitive when it comes to wordplay) That or the UNSC translation programs translate the Sangheli word for "Infection form" as Spore.[/quote] [url=http://www.halopedia.org/Flood_spore]Boom.[/url][/quote] I'm sorry but the picture is a higly magnified version of a spore which is similar to an infection form, but way smaller. Spores are airborn (as you can see in the description). Please please please please read the forerunner trilogy books about those pets of the humans/ prophets that got infected... Spores =/= infection forms.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GhostLink2401 You don't get infected by inhalation. The "Spores" are the same thing as infection forms. R'Tas was just using a simpler word, as Elites tend to do. (They're rather primitive when it comes to wordplay) That or the UNSC translation programs translate the Sangheli word for "Infection form" as Spore.[/quote] [url=http://www.halopedia.org/Flood_spore]Boom.[/url][/quote] Actually, on reflection, I remember Spark mentioning that you CAN get infected through inhalation. He says it in the Library. Never mind then, I'm wrong.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GhostLink2401 You don't get infected by inhalation. The "Spores" are the same thing as infection forms. R'Tas was just using a simpler word, as Elites tend to do. (They're rather primitive when it comes to wordplay) That or the UNSC translation programs translate the Sangheli word for "Infection form" as Spore.[/quote] [url=http://www.halopedia.org/Flood_spore]Boom.[/url]
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never mind [Edited on 10.27.2012 12:00 PM PDT]
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You can't really kill the flood with military methods other wise the Forunner would have never went into exiction. You can only control and contain Flood out breaks by starving them. So if the Flood has no food they go dormant until more food arrives.
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Simple answer is that he didn't, he killed the Gravemind maybe but not [i]The Flood[/i]. They will probably feature in Halo 4 somewhere, they'll definitely be in 5 and 6. Only the Halo's stop the Flood but even then they've been fired once already and we still have Flood.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC Did you not see the marine at the start of the level getting swarmed by spores?[/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EhZKpynUxAE#t=127s]There were Infection Forms that jumped on him.[/url] Shouldn't he have been infected once the ship crashed and flung spores all over the place? [quote]It's physical contact that triggers infection. Not inhalation.[/quote] And the Brutes were surrounded by Flood biomass, and thousands of Infection Forms, and trillions upon trillions of - you guessed it - [i]spores[/i]. You'd have to be a goddamn ninja to walk into [i]High Charity[/i] without touching a single spore. That's like trying to dodge rain during a thunderstorm.[/quote] Hm, I always thought they were spores. I guess your right. The Flood's ability to infect is all over the place.
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Because explosions.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC Did you not see the marine at the start of the level getting swarmed by spores?[/quote] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EhZKpynUxAE#t=127s]There were Infection Forms that jumped on him.[/url] Shouldn't he have been infected once the ship crashed and flung spores all over the place? [quote]It's physical contact that triggers infection. Not inhalation.[/quote] And the Brutes were surrounded by Flood biomass, and thousands of Infection Forms, and trillions upon trillions of - you guessed it - [i]spores[/i]. You'd have to be a goddamn ninja to walk into [i]High Charity[/i] without touching a single spore. That's like trying to dodge rain during a thunderstorm.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too Exactly, but not by spores. They all got hit by Infection Forms, but the spores didn't seem to harm them at all.[/quote] Did you not see the marine at the start of the level getting swarmed by spores? [quote]Again, Infection Forms.[/quote] Nope spores. [quote]yes, an Infection Form can get through armor, and yes, they were the reason the marines near the crashed ship were infected. The spores, on the other hand, don't appear to be as infectious as they're made out to be, seeing as how any regular human or jiralhanae can inhale loads of them at a time and not be bothered in the least.[/quote] It's physical contact that triggers infection. Not inhalation.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too The marines in the very same level didn't.[/quote] The marines don't have energy shielding. Hence why they were the first to get infected. [/quote] Exactly, but not by spores. They all got hit by Infection Forms, but the spores didn't seem to harm them at all. [quote]It could certainly get through marine and brute armor. It's safe to assume it could get through a boot.[/quote] Again, Infection Forms. Not to mention in High Charity there were armorless Brutes lying around that weren't infected, at least until Infection Forms showed up. [quote][quote]I'm aware of how the flood works.[/quote] Your last post tells me otherwise.[/quote] Parasitic species are a generic concept. I'm talking about the spores - yes, an Infection Form can get through armor, and yes, they were the reason the marines near the crashed ship were infected. The spores, on the other hand, don't appear to be as infectious as they're made out to be, seeing as how any regular human or jiralhanae can inhale loads of them at a time and not be bothered in the least.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too The marines in the very same level didn't.[/quote] The marines don't have energy shielding. Hence why they were the first to get infected. [quote]Yes. But could one get through a sturdy boot?[/quote] It could certainly get through marine and brute armor. It's safe to assume it could get through a boot. [quote]I'm aware of how the flood works.[/quote] Your last post tells me otherwise.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC Because they had shielding.[/quote] The marines in the very same level didn't. [quote]A single spore is all that is needed to spread. You catch one, then boom.[/quote] Yes. But could one get through a sturdy boot? [quote]Multiplication of spores, which eventually leads onto nastier things. Kind of like bacteria. But on a much bigger and dangerous scale.[/quote] I'm aware of how the flood works.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AnubissWarior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PermeableProgo I believe the flood is still around... Just not in a dangerous form. [/quote] There is no ''not dangerous form'' for flood, all and every flood form is dangerous. [i] A single flood spore can destroy species. [/i][/quote] With a few thousand years, yeah. Besides, you could kill it by stepping on it. Boom, no more flood. Not dangerous at all.[/quote] And thus becoming infected.[/quote] A spore? The Elites in Halo 3 seemed to be able to stroll through them with open mouths without becoming infected.[/quote] Because they had shielding. [quote]Lemme rephrase that - the flood are incredibly dangerous if given time to spread. A single spore is not in itself dangerous. (Its potential, however, is very dangerous.)[/quote] A single spore is all that is needed to spread. You catch one, then boom. Multiplication of spores, which eventually leads onto nastier things. Kind of like bacteria. But on a much bigger and dangerous scale.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AnubissWarior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PermeableProgo I believe the flood is still around... Just not in a dangerous form. [/quote] There is no ''not dangerous form'' for flood, all and every flood form is dangerous. [i] A single flood spore can destroy species. [/i][/quote] With a few thousand years, yeah. Besides, you could kill it by stepping on it. Boom, no more flood. Not dangerous at all.[/quote] And thus becoming infected.[/quote] A spore? The Elites in Halo 3 seemed to be able to stroll through them with open mouths without becoming infected. Lemme rephrase that - the flood are incredibly dangerous if given time to spread. A single spore is not in itself dangerous. (Its potential, however, is [i]very[/i] dangerous.)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FTW 1997 I still think that the flood did not do a wise choice, they could have passed by a habitated world, send flood into it and continue to ark... Also, how did the flood find the ark's coordinates ? They obviously didnt come throught the portal.[/quote] One does not simply [i]pass by[/i] in slipspace. Plus, the Gravemind knew Truths intentions and knew that he had little time to prevent him, that is why he did not concentrate on consuming Earth.
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I still think that the flood did not do a wise choice, they could have passed by a habitated world, send flood into it and continue to ark... Also, how did the flood find the ark's coordinates ? They obviously didnt come throught the portal.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oblivioh how do they know there aren't still infected ships that flew in different directions?[/quote] We are never told that there isn't hundreds of ships flying around universe. For all we know there are grave minds on the other halo. Also it seems that each halo held so many flood for study.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AnubissWarior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PermeableProgo I believe the flood is still around... Just not in a dangerous form. [/quote] There is no ''not dangerous form'' for flood, all and every flood form is dangerous. [i] A single flood spore can destroy species. [/i][/quote] With a few thousand years, yeah. Besides, you could kill it by stepping on it. Boom, no more flood. Not dangerous at all.[/quote] And thus becoming infected.
