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10/14/2012 10:54:57 PM
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Who would win? Halo Universe or Star Wars Universe?
So my friend told me Star Wars can beat Halo and i said no. Then an discussion broke out which could win, then other people got involved. We need to resolve this as I know tthis will not end.
Halo has:
-Master Chief
-Cortana
-Forunners
-UNSC
-Covenant
-Halo Rings
Star Wars:
-Jedi/Sith
-Death Star
-Star Killer
-Darth Vader
-Starcrusher
-Stormtroopers(Regular enlisted men)
-Droids
-All the aliens and weapons from every inhabited world
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Star Wars also has these, Verpine Shatter Guns. They're mini railguns that can use stones for ammo, are completely silent, and travel near the speed of light. They pop shields and would theoretically kill Spartans, Forerunners, Elites, Brutes, and Sentinels in one shot. Or two. But they can use anything for ammo. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Verpine_shatter_gun Rule #2 of Star Wars- Everything in the EU is so -blam!- OP it's funny. (Rule #1 being that half of the EU is -blam!- bull-blam!- that ought to be retconned. The Legacy Era is horrid. TOR is the only perfect era. Thank god.) [Edited on 10.15.2012 4:20 PM PDT]
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Hard to argue with such a huge history and storyline
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 Halo universe enters shield world. Fire all 13 (12 original plus replacement Installation 04) Halos on a matter destructive setting. This can be done because I am dead certain that if a Halo can destroy the Ark, all of them can do so on a much grander scale with the intent to do so. There is no way a Jedi or any combination of them could shield themselves from a Halo. Leave shield world. Clean up the remains. OH WAIT! There are NONE. Halo Universe wins. Plus they have grunts. #Charlie Sheen Winning... That's right, I just hash tagged! Whatchya gonna do?!?! ;) <3[/quote] Except all the droids, and the fact that they could just enter hyperspace, which is an alternate dimension. Then after killing some time, they exit and show up on their front door. Star Wars has exceptionally fast space travel, faster than anything in halo save the wormholes. But the force can open wormholes.[/quote]Halo rings can be tuned(I'll provide a link later.). Hyper Space isn't another dimension. If you hit stuff while in Hyper Space, you are fu**ed. In Slip Space, you can go right through planets, suns, ect... The Forerruners themselves can basically teleport.(I meant their ships can.)[/quote] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperspace [quote]as the alternate state of existence used by starships to achieve faster-than-light travel. It was a phenomenon not completely understood by scientists; it was alternately described as a parallel universe, an extra dimension of space, an alternate mode of physical existence..[/quote] Leave the Star Wars knowledge to the Star Wars fans, k?[/quote]Damn. I have to say. I am quite impressed.
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[url=http://www.halopedia.org/Halo_Array][quote]This burst of neutrinos is carefully tuned to possess a harmonic frequency, which destroys the nervous system of any macroscopic organism that possesses one, even one as rudimentary as a notochord, as shown in the aftermath of a low-powered test firing of a Halo performed by Mendicant Bias in the system of Charum Hakkor[/quote][/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 Halo universe enters shield world. Fire all 13 (12 original plus replacement Installation 04) Halos on a matter destructive setting. This can be done because I am dead certain that if a Halo can destroy the Ark, all of them can do so on a much grander scale with the intent to do so. There is no way a Jedi or any combination of them could shield themselves from a Halo. Leave shield world. Clean up the remains. OH WAIT! There are NONE. Halo Universe wins. Plus they have grunts. #Charlie Sheen Winning... That's right, I just hash tagged! Whatchya gonna do?!?! ;) <3[/quote] Except all the droids, and the fact that they could just enter hyperspace, which is an alternate dimension. Then after killing some time, they exit and show up on their front door. Star Wars has exceptionally fast space travel, faster than anything in halo save the wormholes. But the force can open wormholes.[/quote]Halo rings can be tuned(I'll provide a link later.). Hyper Space isn't another dimension. If you hit stuff while in Hyper Space, you are fu**ed. In Slip Space, you can go right through planets, suns, ect... The Forerruners themselves can basically teleport.(I meant their ships can.)[/quote] http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperspace [quote]as the alternate state of existence used by starships to achieve faster-than-light travel. It was a phenomenon not completely understood by scientists; it was alternately described as a parallel universe, an extra dimension of space, an alternate mode of physical existence..[/quote] Leave the Star Wars knowledge to the Star Wars fans, k?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 Halo universe enters shield world. Fire all 13 (12 original plus replacement Installation 04) Halos on a matter destructive setting. This can be done because I am dead certain that if a Halo can destroy the Ark, all of them can do so on a much grander scale with the intent to do so. There is no way a Jedi or any combination of them could shield themselves from a Halo. Leave shield world. Clean up the remains. OH WAIT! There are NONE. Halo Universe wins. Plus they have grunts. #Charlie Sheen Winning... That's right, I just hash tagged! Whatchya gonna do?!?! ;) <3[/quote] Except all the droids, and the fact that they could just enter hyperspace, which is an alternate dimension. Then after killing some time, they exit and show up on their front door. Star Wars has exceptionally fast space travel, faster than anything in halo save the wormholes. But the force can open wormholes.[/quote]Halo rings can be tuned(I'll provide a link later.). Hyper Space isn't another dimension. If you hit stuff while in Hyper Space, you are fu**ed. In Slip Space, you can go right through planets, suns, ect... The Forerruners themselves can basically teleport.(I meant their ships can.)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 Halo universe enters shield world. Fire all 13 (12 original plus replacement Installation 04) Halos on a matter destructive setting. This can be done because I am dead certain that if a Halo can destroy the Ark, all of them can do so on a much grander scale with the intent to do so. There is no way a Jedi or any combination of them could shield themselves from a Halo. Leave shield world. Clean up the remains. OH WAIT! There are NONE. Halo Universe wins. Plus they have grunts. #Charlie Sheen Winning... That's right, I just hash tagged! Whatchya gonna do?!?! ;) <3[/quote] Except all the droids, and the fact that they could just enter hyperspace, which is an alternate dimension. Then after killing some time, they exit and show up on their front door. Star Wars has exceptionally fast space travel, faster than anything in halo save the wormholes. But the force can open wormholes.[/quote] When A Ring or all of them is set on a matter destructive setting, I am sure that includes droids... besides, I am certain they need sentient life to tell them what to do. If not and it is an AI, I am sure a Precursor or Forerunner AI could hack in and take over... But seriously, grunts! <3 [Edited on 10.15.2012 4:13 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jaba Dawz 01 Halo universe enters shield world. Fire all 13 (12 original plus replacement Installation 04) Halos on a matter destructive setting. This can be done because I am dead certain that if a Halo can destroy the Ark, all of them can do so on a much grander scale with the intent to do so. There is no way a Jedi or any combination of them could shield themselves from a Halo. Leave shield world. Clean up the remains. OH WAIT! There are NONE. Halo Universe wins. Plus they have grunts. #Charlie Sheen Winning... That's right, I just hash tagged! Whatchya gonna do?!?! ;) <3[/quote] Except all the droids, and the fact that they could just enter hyperspace, which is an alternate dimension. Then after killing some time, they exit and show up on their front door. Star Wars has exceptionally fast space travel, faster than anything in halo save the wormholes. But the force can open wormholes. [Edited on 10.15.2012 4:11 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [/quote] Wrong. You are assuming that 04 was 30 000km, which it was not. 04 was 10 000 km in size and the PoA's exsplosion was only 200 Tt.
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I'm going to have to say Halo because of the Covenant, they have awesome warships.
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Halo universe enters shield world. Fire all 13 (12 original plus replacement Installation 04) Halos on a matter destructive setting. This can be done because I am dead certain that if a Halo can destroy the Ark, all of them can do so on a much grander scale with the intent to do so. There is no way a Jedi or any combination of them could shield themselves from a Halo. Leave shield world. Clean up the remains. OH WAIT! There are NONE. Halo Universe wins. Plus they have grunts. #Charlie Sheen Winning... That's right, I just hash tagged! Whatchya gonna do?!?! ;) <3
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Star Wars has Ion Cannons, guns specifically built to destroy the shields of ships that make the stuff the UNSC and Covie use look like speed boats. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ion_cannon So for the UNSC and Covie ships, they'd just need a couple shots from an ion cannon on a Nebula-Class Star Destroyer, or an Impstardeuce (the stuff in the movies) and they'd be toast, allowing for several shots from Turbolasers to decimate a ship. Or the turbolasers alone can pop off shots, allowing a squadron of bombers to drop proton bombs, which would quickly destroy a ship. Just as a guage of power, you only need one Impstardeuce to destroy a planet via 'glassing' in one day. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Base_Delta_Zero Also, I nearly forgot about the Star Forge. A factory that produced an infinite amount of droids and frigates non-stop.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [/quote] Nobody cares man You shouldn't even attach numbers like you were to a science fantasy setting regardless
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Droidekas would pwn the UNSC
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dahuterschuter Millions of Jedi and Sith pull the Halo fleet apart with their combined Force power while sitting in comfortable chairs.[/quote] This made me burst out laughing. Star Wars would destroy Halo simply because of the Force.
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The Star Forge would destroy everything. As would the sith empires. You realize that Halo has a dozen or so races, while star wars has hundreds
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mac12 The Halo universe has Forerunners and Precursors. Their technology is the stuff of legends.[/quote] Like I've already stated, the EU introduced stuff that rivals the Chaos Gods of warhammer. -blam!-, there's even the Killiks, a hive-minded race of force sensitives that were used as slaves by the Celestials before they advanced, and with their hivemind are capable of extremely powerful force attacks. Palpatine himself gained the ability to unleash a force storm the size of a system that destroyed entire fleets. There's force powers that also have the ability to instantly drive an enemy insane. Hell, they also could easily wipe out the flood with the force. Meanwhile, the Forerunners got their asses handed to them. The only tricky thing would be the Precursors, and those would wreak havoc but eventually fall. The Forerunners would be wiped out by the standard forces like the Empire,[quote]Okay, then how much energy can their ships handle or dish out?[/quote] and the Covenant and UNSC would be hilariously crushed in an instance.[quote]Nova Bomb. AIs. Orbital Macs.[/quote] One of the largest Star Wars Imperial ships with a superlaser capable of destroying flagships in a single shot was 17 kilometers long.[quote]Again, how much energy can it dish it, and how much can it take?[/quote] And there's still bigger stuff. And don't forget the various Empires at times that were made up entirely of Sith.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergeant Donut I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS[/quote] Star Wars has gods. They were called the Celestials, and became one with the force, and likely influence all the events via their immense will. By becoming one with the force as well, they are invincible, as the Halo arrays can't destroy them. Really, the only thing that can stand up to star wars is the entire Warhammer Universe pitted against them, but that would result in eternal war. You can't forget the fact that they have entire forgeworlds in Star Wars, dedicated to producing warmachines nonstop. There's also the IG-88 robots, which virtually invincible and could simply have their blueprints drawn up again and mass produced. HK-47 is also still alive. And again, there's guys like Darth Sion, who [i]cannot die[/i]. Sion was shot, stabbed, blasted, vaporized, etc, and kept coming back until the Exile soothed him to give up the eternal pain of being 'undead' and accept death. Otherwise he would have continued to kill jedi till the universe died. And again. Darth Nihilus. He sucks the life out of anything he's near and could destroy entire planets of life with his simple presence. And he's not dead either. He transferred his soul into his armor and could be revived at any moment if given a host.[/quote]Some Precursors are actually Immortal. One of them survived the Halo Array. Also, what would happen is a Celestial were to be De-Volved?[/quote] They can't, they're in the force which is another plane of existence. It'd be like trying to fight the Q, or the Chaos Gods. You can't kill what doesn't have a body, is everywhere, and nigh omnipotent. And the Precursors were all killed, and the one that survived wasn't a precursor, if you actually read, it was a Gravemind that had been locked away which saved it from destruction.[/quote]How about.... >Goes into SlipSpace >Stays in Slip Space >Doesn't Ever Come out
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mac12 The Halo universe has Forerunners and Precursors. Their technology is the stuff of legends.[/quote] Like I've already stated, the EU introduced stuff that rivals the Chaos Gods of warhammer. -blam!-, there's even the Killiks, a hive-minded race of force sensitives that were used as slaves by the Celestials before they advanced, and with their hivemind are capable of extremely powerful force attacks. Palpatine himself gained the ability to unleash a force storm the size of a system that destroyed entire fleets. There's force powers that also have the ability to instantly drive an enemy insane. Hell, they also could easily wipe out the flood with the force. Meanwhile, the Forerunners got their asses handed to them. The only tricky thing would be the Precursors, and those would wreak havoc but eventually fall. The Forerunners would be wiped out by the standard forces like the Empire, and the Covenant and UNSC would be hilariously crushed in an instance. One of the largest Star Wars Imperial ships with a superlaser capable of destroying flagships in a single shot was 17 kilometers long. And there's still bigger stuff. And don't forget the various Empires at times that were made up entirely of Sith.
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The Halo universe has Forerunners and Precursors. Their technology is the stuff of legends.
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Well if you're only counting UNSC + Covenant against Star Wars, not sure who would win. But... Forerunners could easily solo entire Star Wars, let alone Precursors. It'd be a joke. Flood would cause a huge problem by themselves too if they didn't deal with them correctly. People who are still trying to defend Star Wars against Forerunners or Precursors just look like desperate fanboys at this point. [Edited on 10.15.2012 3:56 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergeant Donut I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS[/quote] Star Wars has gods. They were called the Celestials, and became one with the force, and likely influence all the events via their immense will. By becoming one with the force as well, they are invincible, as the Halo arrays can't destroy them. Really, the only thing that can stand up to star wars is the entire Warhammer Universe pitted against them, but that would result in eternal war. You can't forget the fact that they have entire forgeworlds in Star Wars, dedicated to producing warmachines nonstop. There's also the IG-88 robots, which virtually invincible and could simply have their blueprints drawn up again and mass produced. HK-47 is also still alive. And again, there's guys like Darth Sion, who [i]cannot die[/i]. Sion was shot, stabbed, blasted, vaporized, etc, and kept coming back until the Exile soothed him to give up the eternal pain of being 'undead' and accept death. Otherwise he would have continued to kill jedi till the universe died. And again. Darth Nihilus. He sucks the life out of anything he's near and could destroy entire planets of life with his simple presence. And he's not dead either. He transferred his soul into his armor and could be revived at any moment if given a host.[/quote]Some Precursors are actually Immortal. One of them survived the Halo Array. Also, what would happen is a Celestial were to be De-Volved?[/quote] They can't, they're in the force which is another plane of existence. It'd be like trying to fight the Q, or the Chaos Gods. You can't kill what doesn't have a body, is everywhere, and nigh omnipotent. And the Precursors were all killed, and the one that survived wasn't a precursor, if you actually read, it was a Gravemind that had been locked away which saved it from destruction.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scoopicus Oh my god Star Wars by so much. The main guns on Star Destroyers have the power of a gazillion nuclear weapons. The ones on the starfighters have enough power to outmatch all of America's nuclear weapons. I don't know much about the Forerunners or ancient humans, so I can't speak for them.[/quote]Yep, just go STRAIGHT past my post on the top of this page....
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Oh my god Star Wars by so much. The main guns on Star Destroyers have the power of a gazillion nuclear weapons. The ones on the starfighters have enough power to outmatch all of America's nuclear weapons. I don't know much about the Forerunners or ancient humans, so I can't speak for them.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergeant Donut I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS[/quote] Star Wars has gods. They were called the Celestials, and became one with the force, and likely influence all the events via their immense will. By becoming one with the force as well, they are invincible, as the Halo arrays can't destroy them. Really, the only thing that can stand up to star wars is the entire Warhammer Universe pitted against them, but that would result in eternal war. You can't forget the fact that they have entire forgeworlds in Star Wars, dedicated to producing warmachines nonstop. There's also the IG-88 robots, which virtually invincible and could simply have their blueprints drawn up again and mass produced. HK-47 is also still alive. And again, there's guys like Darth Sion, who [i]cannot die[/i]. Sion was shot, stabbed, blasted, vaporized, etc, and kept coming back until the Exile soothed him to give up the eternal pain of being 'undead' and accept death. Otherwise he would have continued to kill jedi till the universe died. And again. Darth Nihilus. He sucks the life out of anything he's near and could destroy entire planets of life with his simple presence. And he's not dead either. He transferred his soul into his armor and could be revived at any moment if given a host.[/quote]Some Precursors are actually Immortal. One of them survived the Halo Array. Also, what would happen is a Celestial were to be De-Volved?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote]-snip-[/quote][/quote] Star Wars has full-blown immortal deities in the force that cannot be destroyed in any manner. You also can create wounds in the force. For example, if a sorry fellow like Nihilus before he was corrupted, having lost everything and close to the dark side, experienced a major loss of life nearby and was one of the soul survivors, he could destroy the ship that attacked him. And he couldn't be harmed by anything save another wound in the force, like the Exile. So every time you attack a planet with force sensitives in Star Wars, you run the risk of creating a virtual demigod capable of blowing you out of the water with a thought. Again, the only thing that can stand up to Star Wars is Warhammer 40k. [Edited on 10.15.2012 3:36 PM PDT]
