If you hated/dislsiked Halo Reach, what the hell is going to make you like Halo 4? Halo 4 basically has everything bad that Halo Reach has and more.
Armor abilities [i]again[/i]? instant, but -blam!- and useless camp promoting camouflage? X-RAY vision? WTF? May as well just tear down all the walls in every map. And the only thing a jetpack does for you is gets you killed faster. In stead of being in view of 1 player, let the whole team see you: great!
Well if you guys enjoy sprinting on command, whatever.
SO much focus on the little dumb things nowadays. Infection gametypes is like the new MLG; there is so much emphasis on this [i]sideshow[/i]. Don't we want quality arena competitive slayer? Don't we want games where map control and team work are essential factors in matches? I swear since the release of Reach everything's been a one man show, encouraging people to give others the middle finger when asked to play cooperatively. Oh and sprint is one of the factors contributing to that.
Again, this game is (like Reach) always focusing on how to boost your ego. Reach wanted to make you feel special with all of your little perks and armor abilities to help you play "the way you want." Not to mention all of the emphasis on cool shiny customizeable armors. It's been catering to kids, I swear. Halo 2 had it perfectly fine with just being able to change colors and species. Halo 3 had a limited set which was alright; back then Bungie didn't need to focus so much on trivial things like different visuals to keep their community entertained. [i]*cough competitive play cough*[/i]
And can someone tell me where in the hell the flood is coming from? Clearly I missed something because last I heard Cortana told us the flood was wiped out. Not to mention they look completely retarded now.
/endrant
for now
Edit: [b]A lot of people seem to defend armor abilities in that if they had been implemented differently, and/or had tweaks to them, they would have been a much more positive addition to the series' multiplayer aspect. I'd like an idea of these "changes" people keep refuting. [i]Convince the skeptics![/i][/b]
[Edited on 10.09.2012 5:48 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 Halo Reach's failure has nothing to do with Halo 4. Yes there are some Reach elements in H4 Yes Reach left a bad taste in people's mouth Yes Reach changed a lot of things The thing is that Halo 4 is reverting back to the H3 experience. What was wrong with Reach Multiplayer wise was the change (that had potential) was done poorly. Now, 343i has listened to the feedback and changed it to the people's liking's, I encourage you to try it (rent or try it with a friend who has it) first and see if it actually appeals to you. A lot of people who have tried it say that it feels like H3[/quote] I've played it. It feels nothing like h3. It feels like reach.[/quote] Then you are literally the only human being on earth who thinks this. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV I hate this forum so much. Not because of you op, but because of these stupid replies. You are 100% correct and these halo fanboys don't want to hear it. [/quote] or we're being optimistic about the game and we're going to try it? besides i'm more interested in campaign than multiplayer [/quote] He who calls people fanboys, is in fact a fanboy.[/quote] You are right. I do love halo. But I don't let that love for halo blind me when I see a terrible game coming out. It's halo reach 2 and if you can't see that you are retarded.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 Halo 4 is Halo Reach[/quote]No it's not. /thread
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 Halo Reach's failure has nothing to do with Halo 4. Yes there are some Reach elements in H4 Yes Reach left a bad taste in people's mouth Yes Reach changed a lot of things The thing is that Halo 4 is reverting back to the H3 experience. What was wrong with Reach Multiplayer wise was the change (that had potential) was done poorly. Now, 343i has listened to the feedback and changed it to the people's liking's, I encourage you to try it (rent or try it with a friend who has it) first and see if it actually appeals to you. A lot of people who have tried it say that it feels like H3[/quote] I've played it. It feels nothing like h3. It feels like reach.[/quote] Then you are literally the only human being on earth who thinks this. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV I hate this forum so much. Not because of you op, but because of these stupid replies. You are 100% correct and these halo fanboys don't want to hear it. [/quote] or we're being optimistic about the game and we're going to try it? besides i'm more interested in campaign than multiplayer [/quote] He who calls people fanboys, is in fact a fanboy.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 Halo Reach's failure has nothing to do with Halo 4. Yes there are some Reach elements in H4 Yes Reach left a bad taste in people's mouth Yes Reach changed a lot of things The thing is that Halo 4 is reverting back to the H3 experience. What was wrong with Reach Multiplayer wise was the change (that had potential) was done poorly. Now, 343i has listened to the feedback and changed it to the people's liking's, I encourage you to try it (rent or try it with a friend who has it) first and see if it actually appeals to you. A lot of people who have tried it say that it feels like H3[/quote] I won't be able to purchase the game until thanksgiving break as i'll be returning home at the time. By then it will have been a couple of weeks and I'll see if purchasing it is worthwhile. This is the first Halo game (besides CE, obviously) where i'm not excited to play it, at least so eagerly that I purchase it on release or close to it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 A lot of people who have tried it say that it feels like H3[/quote]I really hope this is true. While my overall feeling towards halo 4 thus for is slightly less than positive, I feel compelled to try it. I'm a fan of Halo. It's one of my favorite franchises and I don't want to give up on it.
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At least there is no armor lock. The X-ray vision only lasts for like three seconds. Flood is only in Infection playlist, not canon. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Don't get mad at us though.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV I hate this forum so much. Not because of you op, but because of these stupid replies. You are 100% correct and these halo fanboys don't want to hear it. [/quote] or we're being optimistic about the game and we're going to try it? besides i'm more interested in campaign than multiplayer [/quote] What is there to be optimistic about?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BuzzKill9009 Halo Reach's failure has nothing to do with Halo 4. Yes there are some Reach elements in H4 Yes Reach left a bad taste in people's mouth Yes Reach changed a lot of things The thing is that Halo 4 is reverting back to the H3 experience. What was wrong with Reach Multiplayer wise was the change (that had potential) was done poorly. Now, 343i has listened to the feedback and changed it to the people's liking's, I encourage you to try it (rent or try it with a friend who has it) first and see if it actually appeals to you. A lot of people who have tried it say that it feels like H3[/quote] I've played it. It feels nothing like h3. It feels like reach.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV I hate this forum so much. Not because of you op, but because of these stupid replies. You are 100% correct and these halo fanboys don't want to hear it. [/quote] or we're being optimistic about the game and we're going to try it? besides i'm more interested in campaign than multiplayer
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[quote]Apparently OP is scared of change and can't cope with it[/quote] Not scared but disappointed.
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Halo Reach's failure has nothing to do with Halo 4. Yes there are some Reach elements in H4 Yes Reach left a bad taste in people's mouth Yes Reach changed a lot of things The thing is that Halo 4 is reverting back to the H3 experience. What was wrong with Reach Multiplayer wise was the change (that had potential) was done poorly. Now, 343i has listened to the feedback and changed it to the people's liking's, I encourage you to try it (rent or try it with a friend who has it) first and see if it actually appeals to you. A lot of people who have tried it say that it feels like H3
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I hate this forum so much. Not because of you op, but because of these stupid replies. You are 100% correct and these halo fanboys don't want to hear it.
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If you dont like it then dont play it. The arrival of the flood in Halo 4 will be explained when or if you play through the campaign, dont forget you are fighting Elites again and as of the end of Halo 3 there was meant to be a truce/peace between them and the UNSC. Change is good. If one tactic didnt work against some one with an armour ability then use another (or where you the type of person to constantly stand next to an amour locker then cry when u got killed?) Ok, who else wants the soapbox now?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 back then Bungie didn't need to focus so much on trivial things like different visuals to keep their community entertained. [i]*cough competitive play cough*[/i][/quote]This is best statement in your entire rant. It holds the most truth. The reward should be playing the game, not unlocking the next new shiny thing. Unfortunately it [appears] that Halo 4 is taking it even further the wrong direction. I'm looking at you terrible CTF changes.
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There focused more on the halo 3 gameplay, but I do agree that the jetpack and "certain" armor abilities are a little dull. Just play a playlist that dosen't involve using them. Problem solved. [Edited on 10.03.2012 6:50 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 If you hated/dislsiked Halo Reach, what the hell is going to make you like Halo 4? Halo 4 basically has everything bad that Halo Reach has and more. Armor abilities [i]again[/i]? instant, but -blam!- and useless camp promoting camouflage? X-RAY vision? WTF? May as well just tear down all the walls in every map. And the only thing a jetpack does for you is gets you killed faster. In stead of being in view of 1 player, let the whole team see you: great! Well if you guys enjoy sprinting on command, whatever. SO much focus on the little dumb things nowadays. Infection gametypes is like the new MLG; there is so much emphasis on this [i]sideshow[/i]. Don't we want quality arena competitive slayer? Don't we want games where map control and team work are essential factors in matches? I swear since the release of Reach everything's been a one man show, encouraging people to give others the middle finger when asked to play cooperatively. Oh and sprint is one of the factors contributing to that. Again, this game is (like Reach) always focusing on how to boost your ego. Reach wanted to make you feel special with all of your little perks and armor abilities to help you play "the way you want." Not to mention all of the emphasis on cool shiny customizeable armors. It's been catering to kids, I swear. Halo 2 had it perfectly fine with just being able to change colors and species. Halo 3 had a limited set which was alright; back then Bungie didn't need to focus so much on trivial things like different visuals to keep their community entertained. [i]*cough competitive play cough*[/i] And can someone tell me where in the hell the flood is coming from? Clearly I missed something because last I heard Cortana told us the flood was wiped out. Not to mention they look completely retarded now. /endrant for now[/quote] Apparently OP is scared of change and can't cope with it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MickelPickel The game is gold. No use complaining now; nothing will be changed between now and November 6th.[/quote] It's a good way to let off steam.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 If you hated/dislsiked Halo Reach, what the hell is going to make you like Halo 4? Halo 4 basically has everything bad that Halo Reach has and more.[/quote] I didn't hate Reach because it changed. I hated Reach because the change was poorly designed, contradictory, and ultimately led to a frustrating and punishing experience. If Halo 4 does what Reach tried to do better, then I will enjoy it. [/quote] Yeah same. They tried something new and it sucked. A few other games come to mind. I support the "1.5" type of sequels if you know what I mean, as long as there's enough new cohesive material.
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The game is gold. No use complaining now; nothing will be changed between now and November 6th. [Edited on 10.03.2012 6:45 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 If you hated/dislsiked Halo Reach, what the hell is going to make you like Halo 4? Halo 4 basically has everything bad that Halo Reach has and more. Armor abilities [i]again[/i]? instant, but -blam!- and useless camp promoting camouflage? X-RAY vision? WTF? May as well just tear down all the walls in every map. And the only thing a jetpack does for you is gets you killed faster. In stead of being in view of 1 player, let the whole team see you: great! Well if you guys enjoy sprinting on command, whatever. SO much focus on the little dumb things nowadays. Infection gametypes is like the new MLG; there is so much emphasis on this [i]sideshow[/i]. Don't we want quality arena competitive slayer? Don't we want games where map control and team work are essential factors in matches? I swear since the release of Reach everything's been a one man show, encouraging people to give others the middle finger when asked to play cooperatively. Oh and sprint is one of the factors contributing to that. Again, this game is (like Reach) always focusing on how to boost your ego. Reach wanted to make you feel special with all of your little perks and armor abilities to help you play "the way you want." Not to mention all of the emphasis on cool shiny customizeable armors. It's been catering to kids, I swear. Halo 2 had it perfectly fine with just being able to change colors and species. Halo 3 had a limited set which was alright; back then Bungie didn't need to focus so much on trivial things like different visuals to keep their community entertained. [i]*cough competitive play cough*[/i] And can someone tell me where in the hell the flood is coming from? Clearly I missed something because last I heard Cortana told us the flood was wiped out. Not to mention they look completely retarded now. /endrant for now[/quote] Do you think anybody wants to hear this crap?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 Don't we want games where map control and team work are essential factors in matches?[/quote]Yes.
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What are we supposed to be discussing here?
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Stop crying about this. God damn.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ben2974 If you hated/dislsiked Halo Reach, what the hell is going to make you like Halo 4? Halo 4 basically has everything bad that Halo Reach has and more.[/quote] I didn't hate Reach because it changed. I hated Reach because the change was poorly designed, contradictory, and ultimately led to a frustrating and punishing experience. If Halo 4 does what Reach tried to do better, then I will enjoy it.
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TL;DL. And I don't care so have a nice day.