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6/25/2011 9:44:05 AM
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Halo copied Starcraft?
Alright, before you guys dismiss this just hear me out. Ok for starters Starcraft came out in 1998 and Halo came out in 2001 so plenty of time to copy, obviously Starcraft was a popular game at the time and a big target for copiers. Alright lets start with the races, zerg=flood, protoss=covenant, terran=UNSC. Alright this doesn't nessesarily mean that they copied, but it does serve as a basis. Next, the both the zerg and the flood have an overmind like thing, the zerg's being called the overmind and the flood's being the gravemind. Next, the both mutate and the flood have a small unit that are fast and can over run you if there are too many just like the zerglins, they also happen to look exactly the same. Also is I don't think it is a coincidence that the flood's mobile flying units looks exactly and acts exactly like mutalisks. Ok now for the protoss they both have a weird mystical religion that I don't know much about but they are exactly the same. Next the Terran and the UNSC I won't bag on much just because well they are both human and basically every game ever has humans but don't banshees and hornets look rather similar as well as helions and choppers? Coicidence? Maybe. Well the UNSC space shuttles look the same as the battlecruisers, but then the Starwars cruisers look pretty much the same too so that doesn't really count. Well, I just thought I would share this with you guys. Please post if you guys feel the same as I do or if I am just retarded.
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no if anything Halo copied Pong like every other video game in existence did because pong was the 1st video game. Halo was also starting as a RTS around the same time. [Edited on 06.28.2011 5:09 PM PDT]
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Actually I believe Halo was already in development before Starcraft came out. I could be wrong.
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To be fair, the ekdar aepre just space elves, and the dark eldar are space El ves with a bdsm fixation. Every idea is sparked by somethingelse. Also, I dig eldar, som don't get all offended on me.
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wow! that relic! totally forgot about that one! man its been tooooooo long, can't believe it has been that long!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PLUT0NIUM 235 if you are implying that Alien vs. Predator (the game) came out before Starcraft then afraid you are very much mistaken...also [/quote] Alien vs Predator came out in '94 for the Atari Jag.
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it was probably inspired by Warhammer, no denying the Zerg and Tyranids have a lot of similarities, could consider the Protoss very much like the Eldar, extremely advanced, ancient and for the most part nomadic with little like for 'lesser' species, and the Terrans are like the Imperium of Man, but less religious nut-jobs with no god-emperor!
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Guess what, Starcraft copied Warhammer.
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if you are implying that Alien vs. Predator (the game) came out before Starcraft then afraid you are very much mistaken...also the fact is, nothing is original anymore because more or less everything has been done in some form or another, there are only a few 'stories' and all others are just a derivative of those stories, like the similarities between Starcraft and Halo, Avatar and Pocahontus, ironically Robocop and Frankenstein, most science fiction has stemmed from H.G.Wells War of The Worlds, which was the daddy of alien invasion style stories, written well over a century ago!
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All because one game has something in it, doesn't mean that NOBODY else can use it.
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W[quote]halo copied nothing it is its own universe. end of thread[/quote]Wrong. Halo copied Larry Niven's Ringworld concept, but other than that everything else pretty unoriginal too. A United Earth's military (UNSC) vs. an alien threat (Covenant), and they have one super soldier that will save the day. So no, almost nothing about HALO is original, but what they have done with it is the best that I've seen.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Halochief89RvB Halo didn't use Starcraft for inspiration. Most of it was from movies such as Alien,Aliens. If you look the Pelican looks alot like the Marine Dropship in Aliens. The scene in Halo CE where they first encounter the flood was taken exactly out of Aliens when the Marines go into the colony for the first time. Sergeant Johnson is based ofF Sergeant Apone of Aliens. Halo CE's Marines (personalities and armor) are based off of Aliens as well. The Halo ring is taken from Larry Niven's Ring World [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld] Proof[/url] The Covenant isn't based off of anything (the idea I mean, The Sangheili seems to be inspired by Samurai mixed with "The Predator" Yautja) The Covenant is the typical all powerful alien bad guys who are stronger then the protagonist humans. If anything most of Halo's things are based off movies and other famous parts of Media. Also parts of Bungie's previous game Marathon inspire most of Halo also. Like the Forerunners to the Jjaro. The Jjaro were an advanced race of beings who millions of years before the Marathon games disappeared from the Milky way galaxy. StarCraft was originally Blizzard's cancelled Warhammer 40k project. Thats why Terran marines look so similar to Warhammer 40k's Space marines. So Terrans-Imperium of Man,other factions Protoss- Eldar, Other Eldar factions Zerg- Tyranids. So theres that.[/quote] The Aliens also use a "hive" mentality, except with a Queen instead of a Gravemind. Also, having aliens vs humans vs alien hive doesn't mean they copied Starcraft. Hell, AVP came out before Starcraft, so if anything, Starcraft copied AVP.
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Halo and Starcraft definitely look very similar but early Halo concept art had vehicles, ships, weapons and species looking much different. The Elites looked like lizards and the Ships looked like plants. After removing some features to make the Covenant look "intelligent" it gave them greater similarities. I feel that was more of a coincidence and honestly I feel Halo had it better.
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Halo had been in development since before 1998 and took inspiration from Marathon (a Bungie game). Its absolutely absurd to say they copied with th UNSC and Covenant. A good guy and a bad guy...almost every game and movie has it. I doubt they copied with the Flood. If you go simply by similarities you can say Gears of War copied from Halo and Starcraft copied from Star Wars. As for the similar looking vehicles, the human vehicles were based mainly on real life vehicles. The Hornet design can actually be seen in a few aircraft today. The battlecruiser did not always look like that. If you look at early concept art it was originally gonna be more condensed and it gave the appearance of an ugly plant. About deciding if you are retarded let me say I doubt a retarded person could write properly so...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Elite Elitest [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ghost Faction [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sneakytaco I don't see any sign of Halo being like Starcraft. Bungie didn't use Starcraft to inspiration. If Bungie did copy Starcraft, Halo would of been a RTS unlike Halo Wars, which was created by a different company other than Bungie. That's it.[/quote] Back in 1999 Halo was supposed to be an RTS before Microsoft bought Bungie and add the title C.E[/quote] No it wasn't. Where are you getting that info from?[/quote] It was originally going to be a TPS. [/quote] Watch [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN9vO_gRzoI]this[/url] and [url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-756527489807266892#]this started to 11:00 from Alex Seropian mouth "the idea wa to create a strategy type game like Myth"[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ghost Faction [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sneakytaco I don't see any sign of Halo being like Starcraft. Bungie didn't use Starcraft to inspiration. If Bungie did copy Starcraft, Halo would of been a RTS unlike Halo Wars, which was created by a different company other than Bungie. That's it.[/quote] Back in 1999 Halo was supposed to be an RTS before Microsoft bought Bungie and add the title C.E[/quote] No it wasn't. Where are you getting that info from?[/quote] It was originally going to be a TPS.
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Halo didn't "copy" it was influenced by other Sci-fi games, movies and books... People act like every videogame, book or movie is totally original... well it isn't it had influences from other sources. Also in no way is having a influence a bad thing, it is how we improve.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sneakytaco I don't see any sign of Halo being like Starcraft. Bungie didn't use Starcraft to inspiration. If Bungie did copy Starcraft, Halo would of been a RTS unlike Halo Wars, which was created by a different company other than Bungie. That's it.[/quote] Back in 1999 Halo was supposed to be an RTS before Microsoft bought Bungie and add the title C.E[/quote] No it wasn't. Where are you getting that info from?
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Halo draws inspiration from a lot of sources. StarCraft wasn't the first to make a species with advanced technology and a race that wanted to absorb the galaxy.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sneakytaco I don't see any sign of Halo being like Starcraft. Bungie didn't use Starcraft to inspiration. If Bungie did copy Starcraft, Halo would of been a RTS unlike Halo Wars, which was created by a different company other than Bungie. That's it.[/quote] Back in 1999 Halo was supposed to be an RTS before Microsoft bought Bungie and add the title C.E
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OfTheBloodguard [url=http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/e/ed/Zeratul_SC2_Cncpt1.jpg]Zeratul[/url] (some Protoss leader) [url=http://media.partneryahoo.photobucket.com/image/halo/wushumaster45/halo%20reach%20pics/Halo_Reach_-_Sangheili_Officer.png?o=6]Sangheili[/url] Pretty similiar. Oh well, though.[/quote] Zeratul is also cloaked, and more badass.
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[url=http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/e/ed/Zeratul_SC2_Cncpt1.jpg]Zeratul[/url] (some Protoss leader) [url=http://media.partneryahoo.photobucket.com/image/halo/wushumaster45/halo%20reach%20pics/Halo_Reach_-_Sangheili_Officer.png?o=6]Sangheili[/url] Pretty similiar. Oh well, though.
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Very broad comparisons but different games.
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Whenever I watch Starship Troopers, I think of Halo.
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Elite Zealots are a ripoff of Protoss Zealots.
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Halo copied starship troopers, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wwilCs4Jqg Hell yes
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UNSC > Terran Dominion. Covenant > Protoss. Flood <> Zerg. Just depends what era of Flood you use. Contemporary gets absorbed into the Swarm, Forerunner-era puts up one heck of a fight, but is absorbed in the end, Forerunner-era Flood with Forerunner tech kills teh Zerg dead. Forerunners stomp the Xel-Naga so bad it isn't even funny.
