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5/24/2011 11:09:57 PM
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Credit Reset Disputes - 5/24/2011
Good afternoon,
We have executed a round of Credit Resets for accounts which have habitually exhibited idling or "AFK" behavior while playing in Firefight Matchmaking. If you believe your ban was a false positive, you can post a request for investigation.
[b]Only request an investigation if you are absolutely sure that your ban was a false positive, if we take the time to investigate your account and find that you do have idling or "AFK" behavior, we will place an extended Credit Ban on your account.[/b]
Do not use this thread for any other discussion. If you are not requesting an investigation of your Credit Reset from 5/24/2011, do not post in this thread.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dragonz4friendz [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] D00MFISH Out of interest, how far back does the investigation into the player history go? I'm sure that quite a large percentage of Reach players have at least tried AFKing at some point, even if they didn't do it habitually. People are naturally curious, and it seems a little harsh to punish people for AFKing several months ago, for example, especially if they've since relented and haven't offended since. I freely admit I don't know how the Banhammer/puppy works, but...[/quote] The one investigation I did it took me to go as far back as today.[/quote] Yeah, but the issue stil stands. If a player AFKd experimentally several months ago, he might object to his reset (and thus obtain a credit ban) because, as far as he can remember, he hasn't offended the rules. And punishing someone for that seems wrong.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jeremiah [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ind1g01337 I just got reset, and I am absolutely sure I did not afk in firefight. I'd really like someone to check my game history because I didn't afk in firefight or anywhere for that matter... [/quote] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=557695153&player=ind1g01337[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=557670863&player=ind1g01337[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=557640655&player=ind1g01337[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=557615423&player=ind1g01337[/url] Just a few examples, there's plenty more. [/quote] I was cR banned for 2 weeks after that, shouldn't that be enough? Why do that then just reset me a month later?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] D00MFISH Out of interest, how far back does the investigation into the player history go? I'm sure that quite a large percentage of Reach players have at least tried AFKing at some point, even if they didn't do it habitually. People are naturally curious, and it seems a little harsh to punish people for AFKing several months ago, for example, especially if they've since relented and haven't offended since. I freely admit I don't know how the Banhammer/puppy works, but...[/quote] Thank you for understanding. Jeremiah posted my games for the reason of my ban, yet they were from March/Early April. And even then, I was ALREADY given a ban for these. I learned my lesson but those very games seem to warrant yet [u]another ban on top of a reset.. :([/u]
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Hey I have a friend named birdofpreyvi can anyone see or tell me why he was banned and reset?
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This just made my day, thanks for the heads up Jeremiah. ^^
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So how much of a fuss am I gonna have to make before you look and realise I didn't do anything?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FLORIDApedOfile not you the bungie guy i didnt idle or get 0 score look again bungie[/quote] LMAO, obvious butthurt AFKer is butthurt.
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[quote]What innocent players are you talking about? There is nothing innocent in exploiting firefight. How would you know if AFKing doesnt ruin other player's experiences? I'm sure there are players that like to actually work as a team in playing firefight but can't because of AFKing. If it's easily avoidable then don't do it. Simple as that.[/quote] The ones that were banned even when they were not AFKing. They don't ruin your experience because you can still play the game, quit being selfish. Want to work as a team? Go in with a party. It's easily avoided with a turbo controller.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] D00MFISH Out of interest, how far back does the investigation into the player history go? I'm sure that quite a large percentage of Reach players have at least tried AFKing at some point, even if they didn't do it habitually. People are naturally curious, and it seems a little harsh to punish people for AFKing several months ago, for example, especially if they've since relented and haven't offended since. I freely admit I don't know how the Banhammer/puppy works, but...[/quote] The one investigation I did it took me to go as far back as today.
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It's about time, good job
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Toilet Being [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kira Onime [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] john muhamed you think this game had few players before, get ready for it to really drop off. You allow this in a game, give no warning then ban people. I'm through with you Bungie. All you can flame me and rejoice but watch what happens. I'll never invest the money I had. I have several accounts that even my kids play on with their own xbox that I have purchased multiple games or maps. Never again. There is a reason why this game has never reached the level of your past titles. Hope you feel great about alienating your customers. This is poor business at its finest. Good bye.[/quote] Players got pwned. When you break the law, there is no "warning", you get what you deserve. Players AFk-ed and cheated their way up got what they deserved.[/quote] And what action should we take against Bungie for causing this mess in the first place? [/quote] If a system exists, people will find a way to abuse it. I should really look into making that an internet law...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ITFC BRUCE i have been been credit banned today and my rank reset i recently AFK on the 13 of may and was rightly punished by a 24 hour ban but since then i have done nothing wrong so y the ban please investigate[/quote] [url]http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/gamestats.aspx?gameid=606986425&player=ELITE REACH[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/gamestats.aspx?gameid=606981571&player=ELITE REACH[/url]
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I agree. This is just pushing people away. If I get restored I'd play again. If not, I'll just go away and spend my money elsewhere. I just can't get over how Bungie creates the environment for this then punishes people for their lack of insight. If you'd not let people earn credits for sitting around, it wouldn't have happened. But you allow it then punish people for it? How does that make sense?
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I'm gonna leave this here in one more instance in case it was looked over. Those games you posted I was punished for already, and I don't think it's fair to dole out another ban on top of a reset for something in March/April. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Jeremiah [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Santa Clause 22 I do request an investigation, for habitual AFKing.[/quote] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=581567881&player=StripedSweaters[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=581651018&player=StripedSweaters[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=566926163&player=StripedSweaters[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=530196756&player=StripedSweaters[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=528827335&player=StripedSweaters[/url] None of those are DNF, being AFK for half of the game and then getting a couple kills or killing yourself a couple times is still idling behavior. You admittedly exhibited AFK behavior on purpose. [/quote] Excuse me, but those are from like.. March and April. I was already banned for a week after these, why should I have another punishment after I've learned my lesson? :(
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Bit rude really. Just an excuse for players to leave Halo and go play Black Ops instead xD
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Out of interest, how far back does the investigation into the player history go? I'm sure that quite a large percentage of Reach players have at least tried AFKing at some point, even if they didn't do it habitually. People are naturally curious, and it seems a little harsh to punish people for AFKing several months ago, for example, especially if they've since relented and haven't offended since. I freely admit I don't know how the Banhammer/puppy works, but...
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not you the bungie guy i didnt idle or get 0 score look again bungie
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i have been been credit banned today and my rank reset i recently AFK on the 13 of may and was rightly punished by a 24 hour ban but since then i have done nothing wrong so y the ban please investigate
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SafeWhales Hey Jeremiah, my friend AxeL IDynamiiC was a Reclaimer, almost inheritor and he can't get into his computer, can you tell me what he did please? He's very sad and he says he is innocent but I really dunno. I actually think he is legit since he is always playing MM but well can you please tell me?[/quote] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=620412467&player=AxeL IDynamiiC[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=620223971&player=AxeL IDynamiiC[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=619166133&player=AxeL IDynamiiC[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=616451100&player=AxeL IDynamiiC[/url]
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look into mine and FIX the problem!!! for afk "ideling out"
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FLORIDApedOfile investigate mine this is BS ,, these kids got off from playing a while ago i got on and was doing a challenge got banned and reset out of the blue [/quote] [url]http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/gamestats.aspx?gameid=620658051&player=GENERIC CRACK[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=620631512&player=GENERIC CRACK[/url] [url]http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/gamestats.aspx?gameid=620104597&player=GENERIC CRACK[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Toilet Being [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kira Onime [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] john muhamed you think this game had few players before, get ready for it to really drop off. You allow this in a game, give no warning then ban people. I'm through with you Bungie. All you can flame me and rejoice but watch what happens. I'll never invest the money I had. I have several accounts that even my kids play on with their own xbox that I have purchased multiple games or maps. Never again. There is a reason why this game has never reached the level of your past titles. Hope you feel great about alienating your customers. This is poor business at its finest. Good bye.[/quote] Players got pwned. When you break the law, there is no "warning", you get what you deserve. Players AFk-ed and cheated their way up got what they deserved.[/quote] And what action should we take against Bungie for causing this mess in the first place? [/quote] Their game and they can do what they see fit with it. Too many people exploided the AFK system and now makes for some serious lulz.
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hold up hold up...HOLD UP. how many times can we AFK...what if we really fall asleep? :s
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Welp, I can't say this is unwarranted. Full party boosting is one thing, but being AFK in Firefight matchmaking and harming the experience of 3 other people is another entirely. My only regret? You at Bungie wasted time banning over your little token economy operant conditioning rather than fixing this game.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Toilet Being [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HaRrBrO0608 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Toilet Being [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HaRrBrO0608 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Toilet Being How about you fix the problem you caused instead of banning people? The piss poor scoring system is why people AFK in the first place, you cowards.[/quote]Umad? There is nothing wrong with it. You guys are just too lazy to actually play a legitimate game in firefight. [/quote] I've never played firefight, I've never AFKed, I've never been banned for AFKing. Quit making assumptions. AFKing doesn't hurt you, and the ban does more harm than good. Bungie should fix the mess THEY created, not implement a ban that is easily avoided and harms the innocent.[/quote]Did I ever say YOU specifically? Quit making assumptions. The banning system does exactly what it's suppose too. Now people will know not to AFK and ruin other player's experience. What mess are you talking about? Don't blame it on Bungie for other people's actions.[/quote] Read your post, you lumped me in the category. So, it intends to ban innocent players? AFKing doesn't ruin your experience, and why do they do it in the first place? Oh ya, because Bungie is incompetent. Hence the easily avoidable bans. Bungie is partially to blame.[/quote]What innocent players are you talking about? There is nothing innocent in exploiting firefight. How would you know if AFKing doesnt ruin other player's experiences? I'm sure there are players that like to actually work as a team in playing firefight but can't because of AFKing. If it's easily avoidable then don't do it. Simple as that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] o PsYchOsiS o Hello, today my xbox 360 console and my account were both banned from earning credits for 2 weeks. In addition I'm a recruit now so I think that this specific ban/credit reset applies to me. NOW, I do NOT AFK in firefight matchmaking at ALL. In all the firefight games I don't think I've ever idled (I complete my games all the way through trying to get 1st place all the time). Also, I do not recall violating any xbox live rules on Reach or any other game. Please investigate this as I feel I have been wrongly banned. I always play throughout my matchmaking games and do not tamper at all with the network or in-game play. Thanks, o Psychosis o[/quote] quoting my post again as it may have been overlooked.
