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11/26/2010 9:56:02 AM
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How did Noble 6 survive a re-entry drop from orbit?
Master chief was dropped from a plane about 2km high,
Noble 6 fell from space,
what gives?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tacticalkilljoy If you look really close at the "backpack" he's wearing in the cutscene, it says "Re-entry pack" on it. Greatest cop out ever![/quote]
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Noble 6 has a back pack with a parachute on his or hers back and strong armor. When you hit the surface you had little damage in your leg wan limped a few seconds.The parachute failed alittle from how far you were from the ground falling. [Edited on 11.27.2010 6:55 PM PST]
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Halo Reach is one large fail of a storyline, what do you expect?
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I'm willing to bet that the re-entry pack contained a stronger, one-time-use version of armor lock, along with a parachute. But I still think that is a weak excuse for Noble Six's survival.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vorcil Does anyone have information on how it works? is it just a normal jetpack used for decelerating? or does noble 6 also have the armor locking/gel pad thing master chief had in his armor? [/quote] I don't know about in Halo Reach, but in that comic or whatever of 'armour testing' a Spartan falls from orbit backwards so that the re-entry pack deflects the air and takes the majority of the heat, then when the Spartan gets lower and takes on only a low supersonic speed or whatever, drogue chutes and then a normal (although high wing load) parachute deploys that allows them to sail in like a normal soldier). I can only speculate that either Noble 6 had a bad landing or that last parachute failed a bit. EDIT: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ymFem5EEY]This video will explain it all.[/url] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gst353 So here's a question: if the packs somehow protect users from the heat of reentry (as is clearly implied in Reach), then why do ODSTs use drop pods? Why can't they just use reentry packs? I'm probably over-thinking all that, but meh. In the end, the reentry pack thing is just a very poor explanation by Bungie as to how Six survived. They weren't thinking about how ridiculous that concept really is, since most people aren't seriously into the Halo canon. They knew only a select few players would really care. If Six had commandeered a Covenant drop pod (they're frequently seen in the games) from the ship, that would have made a lot more sense, and wouldn't have butchered canon. Then again, that wouldn't have made quite such a dramatic, hollywoodized cutscene ending for the mission.[/quote] The reason ODST's don't use it is because the drop pod can carry a combat load and if they went in without the titanium composite armour (and energy shields) they'd be burnt to a crisp before they reach the ground. [Edited on 11.27.2010 6:13 AM PST]
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Your irrelivance radars will go off...... I picked up armour lock and had the jump jet pouldrens!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PLUT0NIUM 235 look at the halo: graphic novel the story 'armour testing' (yes i know the spelling is 'armor' in the book, but that is incorrect english) but that shows a SPARTAN-II deploying from low orbit using a simple and humble parachute sort of aparatus.[/quote]That's Maria-062. But that wasn't what 6 used - he either used a hyper-compact version of it, or it was just a jetpack randomly capable of re-entry of a single person. Which is random, and stupid.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gzalzi Gel layer.[/quote]
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look at the halo: graphic novel the story 'armour testing' (yes i know the spelling is 'armor' in the book, but that is incorrect english) but that shows a SPARTAN-II deploying from low orbit using a simple and humble parachute sort of aparatus.
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He armor locked.
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He is jesus.
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Gel layer.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gst353 So here's a question: if the packs somehow protect users from the heat of reentry (as is clearly implied in Reach), then why do ODSTs use drop pods? Why can't they just use reentry packs? I'm probably over-thinking all that, but meh. In the end, the reentry pack thing is just a very poor explanation by Bungie as to how Six survived. They weren't thinking about how ridiculous that concept really is, since most people aren't seriously into the Halo canon. They knew only a select few players would really care. If Six had commandeered a Covenant drop pod (they're frequently seen in the games) from the ship, that would have made a lot more sense, and wouldn't have butchered canon. Then again, that wouldn't have made quite such a dramatic, hollywoodized cutscene ending for the mission.[/quote] I think it's the combination of the re-entry pack and MJOLNIR armor that's protecting 6 from the heat.
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So here's a question: if the packs somehow protect users from the heat of reentry (as is clearly implied in Reach), then why do ODSTs use drop pods? Why can't they just use reentry packs? I'm probably over-thinking all that, but meh. In the end, the reentry pack thing is just a very poor explanation by Bungie as to how Six survived. They weren't thinking about how ridiculous that concept really is, since most people aren't seriously into the Halo canon. They knew only a select few players would really care. If Six had commandeered a Covenant drop pod (they're frequently seen in the games) from the ship, that would have made a lot more sense, and wouldn't have butchered canon. Then again, that wouldn't have made quite such a dramatic, hollywoodized cutscene ending for the mission. [Edited on 11.26.2010 12:59 PM PST]
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They make mention to it after the first space battle of Long Night of Solace. The Sabre's computer is warning Jorge his Re-Entry Pack is disengaged, hence why he doesn't have one and why Six does.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KylialielN0X [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vorcil Master chief was dropped from a plane about 2km high, Noble 6 fell from space, what gives?[/quote] As they said above, he used a Re Entry pack, btw if you can get that comic about an armor test with Maria-062; she´s wearing something similar so, maybe the same way she re entered could apply to Six.[/quote] Here's a handy dandy [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ymFem5EEY&playnext=1&list=PL1EECDE182F61D1A4&index=13]visual[/url] for those without access to the HGN
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] privet caboose [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vorcil Does anyone have information on how it works? is it just a normal jetpack used for decelerating? or does noble 6 also have the armor locking/gel pad thing master chief had in his armor? [/quote] I don't believe Mark V had the gel layer Mark VI had. [/quote]yes it did, thats how most of red team survived jumping out of the pelican in first strike.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vorcil Master chief was dropped from a plane about 2km high, Noble 6 fell from space, what gives?[/quote] As they said above, he used a Re Entry pack, btw if you can get that comic about an armor test with Maria-062; she´s wearing something similar so, maybe the same way she re entered could apply to Six.
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He has a super special backpack that contains a sandwich, some chips, and a portable survive reentry pack.
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See, I wouldn't mind the whole re-entry pack thing had they been less subtle about it. Nothing like "Oh hey, I'll survive this plunge into Reach's atmosphere thanks to my handy dandy Re-Entry Pack," but more along the lines of Jorge man-handling Six and attaching the pack when he has his back turned, while scanning for enemy contacts. Six could say something like, "Wait, what are you doing?" Then Jorge could have started with his "I got good news and bad news bit."
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nocbl2 I believe Maria uses a re-entry pack when testing the Mark 6. Hers was really big, and covered her legs. She used it as a heat shield, and then it deployed a parachute. However, Six was tumbling and falling uncontrollably. She may have fell in at then wrong angle and burned up. It was a miracle he/she survived.[/quote] Tumbling? Six fell pretty straight to m Aside from the light flutter of the legs, it was straight. [Edited on 11.26.2010 8:24 AM PST]
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I believe Maria uses a re-entry pack when testing the Mark 6. Hers was really big, and covered her legs. She used it as a heat shield, and then it deployed a parachute. However, Six was tumbling and falling uncontrollably. She may have fell in at then wrong angle and burned up. It was a miracle he/she survived.
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Chief had a metal door from a forerunner that he used to re enter the atmosphere. His armor jell took most of the impact. I think 6's re entry pack deployed some parachutes or something like that except futuristic.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] privet caboose [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vorcil Does anyone have information on how it works? is it just a normal jetpack used for decelerating? or does noble 6 also have the armor locking/gel pad thing master chief had in his armor? [/quote] I don't believe Mark V had the gel layer Mark VI had. [/quote] Oh but it did. When Red Team crashes into Reach on the Pelican, They all lock their armor, increasing the pressure of their gel layer to maximum in hopes of surviving the impact.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vorcil Does anyone have information on how it works? is it just a normal jetpack used for decelerating? or does noble 6 also have the armor locking/gel pad thing master chief had in his armor? [/quote] I don't believe Mark V had the gel layer Mark VI had.
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Yeah, total copout. This smacks of the hurried, patchy narratives that cripple all of the halo sequels. One of the "wait..., what?" moments.
