The power fantasy is neatly long gone in Destiny 2 with its current state and community state.
You can’t go anywhere in the forums without someone lecturing you with the disturbingly common “you need to watch multiple dungeon walkthrough videos and memorize everything before attempting a dungeon for the first time”.
Or “You need to look up better build videos” or “you need to use this extremely specific gear to feel powerful”.
Destiny 2 is now a game that revolves around players constantly needing lectures and education from Streamers and die hards on how “you’re supposed to play the game” according to the streamers and die hards who run and dictate everything now down the very patches and reworks that occur.
I like the menagerie, I like content where players are encouraged to be engaged and learn the content themselves without extremely high stakes involved.
Fortnite has millions of players every month not bc people are that competitive, it’s bc all of the fun casual game modes Fortnite now offers gamers in the creator made communities and LEGO communities and music communities.
If destiny 2 cannot thrive without streamers constantly explaining everything from news updates to video build guides, then destiny has no future. Destiny 2 needs to be able to have gamers learn the content themselves without needing outside help. To make top tier builds without outside help. To enjoy the game and be part of the community without having to subscribe to someone’s twitch.
I distinctly remember that when I was most active, gear wasn’t very complicated. You could use all the new equipment from a season including the seasonal exotic weapon and armor and feel extremely powerful without having to do extensive research and build crafting. It was as easy as just equipping the new stuff. Now we are getting back to the point in time where new weapons are less and less viable and you need extremely specific weapons from trials endgame or a very specific event if you even hope to feel half powerful whenever you try higher difficulty content.
Bungie, you are killing player counts by crafting this ideal streamers paradise game that becomes so convoluted and so high stakes that the avg gamer can’t stay involved and powerful without constant outside help. I enjoy dungeons I can figure out all on my own with friends, but I don’t like dungeons that are so damn hard that they feel like a mini raid.
Or how about raids being the most unpopular activity they’ve ever been in all of destiny’s history?? Raids are too damn long, and hard and complicated for the meager loot they provide which has long been outclassed by newer versions of these weapons. And not being able to find genuinely chill gamers thanks to the crappy restricted lfg system we have now, you’re almost guaranteed to be signing up for a multi hour long toxic argument between bitter and salty gamers who can’t get past a certain encounter.
If destiny 2 wants to stick around for the long run, streamers need to go bye bye. The game needs to be able to sustain itself and generate enough buzz and interest without needing countless streamers to try and muster some small amount of hype from the community to play the content that was clearly designed to be enjoyable by streamers the most.
Bungie and Destiny 2 are more than capable of stepping up and being more involved in their own community rather than leave all the hype generation and all the community building efforts to streamers who are purely profit minded and driven. Streamers genuinely don’t care about the future of any game they play, if they did they wouldn’t be switching games on stream every time their view-count dips 10%
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Edited by Dooodley: 11/28/2025 8:11:47 AMWhile it's never been great I have to say that it has gotten worse- a lot worse. Hell, you cant even get the most out of the portal without fiddling around. It's constantly on my mind that people who don't have a Destiny interest that stretches outside the game and organically pick up hints and tips are probably playing the portal in default mode - and by doing so are never reaching the scores required to progress. As for end-game content - and me being a returning player - there's just too much BS. I'm watching videos and it's just go here, do this, stand on this plate, shoot this thing three times etc etc. Now I'm expected to remember all this or find a group that is willing to put up with it - which by the look of FTF is nearly impossible unless you join a clan. And I get it, I should have played that stuff years ago and known it by now but I wasnt here back then. And clans? Have you seen the recruitment forum? Every somewhat serious post make it seem like you have to commit to it like fulltime job, be in discord at all times, hand over your SSN or you wont get a spot when it's time to raid. The D1 raids were much more manageable to a new player - but for some reason they had to complicate those too. That said, I am not blaming the streamers. I think they're actually suffering from raids and whatnot not being accessible to more players. Why watch them raid if you know from start that you're probably not going to do it yourself? Also, I dont know what they have in store for the portal but that -blam!- needs to change. If the new motto if "we're beinging back FUN" then let us have fun. Constantly having to be concerned about timers and revives against a delta is not fun - or ideal for daily activities. That stuff was interesting in old GM's but few want to play a GM every time they play. Even the original portal system was way better than what we have now. But in old Bungie fashion they couldnt just increase the rewards, they had to put time and resrouces into a completely new system that made everything worse instead - and IMO isnt even working as intended.