Maybe if this business actually learned to work with what worked for certain activities in this game instead of constantly changing things like they did with IB making matters worse, things might have been better off. I have never seen any business screw things up as bad as this one has. Case and point. It's been what, 9 years and they still are playing with SBMM/CBMM like a child playing with a light switch 🤦‍♂️

Because in D1 its was the casual way to get max light D1 locked max gear behind raids for PvE And back then PvP in general (in other games too) was way more chill and less sweaty

That's because in D1, you were at least guaranteed iron banner gear and weapons. In D2, it's bombarded with world drop loot first and maybe you have a chance of getting IB stuff

So much this! I looked forward to d1 iron banner. To get people to play d2 iron banner they actually have to turn off regular quickplay so there is no alternative for the entire week!

It's true though. There was always a reason to grind IB in D1.

[quote]Nostalgia[/quote] 7 years later that conclusion holds water

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. This saying applies to everything including videogames too. But this company didn’t get the memo about it. That’s what happens when you have people that aren’t real game developers pretend to be one and try to pretend they’re making a game. They end up with a broken and empty game. Bwahahahahahaha!!! Welcome to hollowness!

You realize everything in this game is a reskin of an existing legendary, right? There is a couple dozen types like example: 180 hand cannons all have the exact same impact. All Linear Fusion rifles have a maximum of 44 impact with a maximum of 533ms to charge, except 3 bursts like Stormchaser, which has a slightly higher damage amount but only due to the time it takes to shoot the bursts, at the end of the day, the damage per minute ill remain the exact same. Everything has a category for a reason. Notice how Bungie said "15% damage reduction for legendary Linear Fusion Rifles" and not specific amounts for Taipan vs Briar Contempt vs Reeds Regret, etc? Literally this entire game is the exact same weapons, only difference ever being the perks you can get on them. If you were to ignore the perks of Cataclysmic and Taipan, they literally is no difference between them. So of course Iron Banner weapons suck. Reskins do indeed suck. Exotics are the only one's that get to do whatever stats they want. When Clever Dragon came out in Destiny 1 it was a very unique archetype. It rose to the top meta at first, because of it. Destiny 2 however, all the Iron Banner weapons are ugly versions of weapons you actually already have in your vault. They need to AT LEAST have some more PVP related perks. No one uses Iron Banner weapons for a reason. (Unless they are a noob). Remember Pinnacle weapons? Those weapons that were unique like Mountaintop, Luna's Howl, Not Forgotten? Bungie literally introduced sunsetting cause they realized there is more work when you have individual weapons. And how did that idea go? It was either sunsetting or reskins, though other developers seem to handle many types of weapons, we chose reskins.

Exactly

Also the accountability from Activision