[quote]I'll start by saying that I can deal with Icarus dash since you have to use it in air and it takes a aspect slot. But this new titan dodge sounds really overpowered and we haven't even seen it yet.[/quote] You’re contradicting yourself, as you said, we haven’t even seen it, yet you’re making a post saying it “sounds” really overpowered. My god that is just as bad and annoying as everyone literally complaining about Warlocks; since getting buffed massively overall just isn’t enough when other classes are getting some similar toys I guess (wait, that’s actually exactly what this post is). [quote]My concern/ complaint at this point is [u]why are you making the class that's supposed to be the fastest into the slowest?[/u] Hunters should be the fastest class out there, across the board in all subclass, with Arc subclasses from the others being faster than Solar or Void hunter, but not Arc hunter.[/quote] Because they decided to make Arc the speed subclass. They never said that Hunters were supposed to be the fastest afaik, and if they did they were -blam!- stupid because that’s never objectively been the case. You’re doing exactly what everyone else is doing in this constant cycle of hatred that spews from these retched forums. You’re claiming something as your own that has never been yours, and you’re digging you’re disgusting feet in saying “No! Only I can be fast!” As others exclaim “No! Only I can create Ionic Traces, use Pulsewave (a long time Stormcaller speed buff;)), only I can Blink, only I can have Arc Web!” As others said before “No! Only I can have invisibility, void overshield? (I’m honestly struggling to come up with Titan examples, maybe just being good at melee? I’m sure someone will seek me out and violently describe everything they’ve had to share in vigorous detail, -blam!- you in advance), only I can use x movement ability, which might be a melee ability, cast my super this way use this grenade have a melee that does THIS much damage and yada yada yada yada NONE OF IT MATTERS. We are all the same, yet different in subtle ways. We never owned our abilities, Bungie does and hell, even in the lore classes and subclasses are nothing more than social constructs, we could all use the same abilities if we really wanted. So let the pot be mixed around a little. Let Bungie share their toys a bit differently as they finish up with the new subclass system we call 3.0. Let Arc use speed as a focal point for all subclasses. Let everyone have a taste of Arc Web, Ionic Traces and the lot. We still have our unique little abilities that make us special, they’re just changing as our subclasses are. And when it comes out that Arc Warlocks/Titans/Hunters are vastly underpowered depending on which one you use, then we can throw our own fecal matter at each other like the caged monkeys that we always have been. For we are all the same, and we will be nothing but dust together eventually.

As long as its cooldown is tied to mobility with 100 mobility giving it a 20 second cooldown .

Welcome to how warlocks feel. Hunters have our blink, titans have our dash and high survivability, and now everyone is getting our lightning arcs and ionic traces. Classes becoming more and more similar to eachother just feels bad across the board

No clue but as a hunter main I'm happy that titans are getting this. None of us have seen it yet so it may not even be as fun as it sounds. This is Bungie we are talking about.

[typical complaint post]

Welp I mean they took Garrison from Titans gave it to Warlocks as a gimme. Took 1 hit shoulder charges from Titans gave Hunter 1 hit grenades. Took grenades from each class and gave it to everyone. They are going in a direction where everyone is the same just different supers. Kinda dumb kinda okay I think. Gonna end up making the game very bland in the end. But I still want my Garrison Titan back screw Warlocks.

Dodge is the fastest ability to proctor. I mean if I could double tap shoulder charge or a warlock could proctor Icarus instantly, I could get on board with what your saying…but.

they lose the barricade for the dodge, where is the problem?

Theoretically you're right, however, if we're talking simply movement Titans themselves can "skate" and with the boost Warlocks get they can move much faster than a running Hunter. The same argument could be met for Warlocks since some are upsets other classes are getting traces. The class abilities absolutely needed to be updated for years, but certain abilities are still within a classes identity. They haven't made such broad changes that you cannot distinguish a titan from a Hunter or warlock or vice versa. Im a hunter main and will always be so, but I do enjoy seeing different builds and the synergy between each class. Just wait until Tuesday, arc 3 may be very interesting.