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originally posted in: Loreley is broken
6/30/2022 10:22:53 AM
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I got two for you wormhusk, stompies
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  • Neither need any nerfs

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  • Lorelei, lion rampart, dunemarchers, AC/Feedback, citans, synthos, heart of inmost light(ability spam), one eyed mask, peregrine greeves ect. I can go on.. stompees is a neutral movement exotic that is easily counter-able especially now with a -50 to AE, wormhusk is annoying as heck but not game breaking unless ran with classy res/healing nade. Lorelei is easily the better choice over wormhusk 😂

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  • lion ramprats arent viable in pvp, ac/feedbacks requires someone to melee you which you are just going to get shotguned and it only does forty damage, citans barriers are very weak and requires you to play passive, synthos are same argument as feedbacks you are just going to get shotgunned and you don't use the other perk with it, heart of inmost light got nerfed so it only gives about 2 levels of discipline and strength when using one ability, OEM requires you to get shot for it too work, P greaves are situational and also solved by shotgun. Stompees were a exotic that allowed hunters to abuse certain techs and improve their jump in a way that affected pvp and they nerf to stompies were needed, and wormhusk with classy is better than Lorelia because its you dodge which can get down to 10 seconds and allows you to stay mobile while doing it while Lorelia splendor makes you either break shields or use your shield and you have to stay in the fire or else it won't regenerate

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  • 👀 again stompees worked as intended you can’t call that abuse.. if you have trouble with a jumping fool that’s on you. I never had issues shutting that down, you’re a easy target in the air 100% of the time. Compared to Lorelei, titans have the easiest access to 100 res which means they can have little to no flinch with any and everything. Even content creators promoting and abusing the exotic admitted that it was cheap. Especially when coupled with snipers, erianas, Lorentz, arbe, le monarch ect. With 100 resilience do you know how fast you can pop shields? Much faster than a dodge recharge. All other titan exotics I listed are very viable in PvP you just have to build into them and most titan remain stationary anyway unless they’re shoulder sharing with peregrines. Classy res will be leaving after this season and wormhusk can be shutdown as well especially with the new solar changes. As well as hu dodge which now allows for hu to still be shot while dodging. Hu has a few neutral exotics and the vast majority are pretty useless in PvP and PvE which is why you see people running the same things.

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  • also all classes have easy access to residence its just our class ability is linked to it and previously it was useless before the flinch buff and for titans the barricade speed if its small can be 13 seconds maybe 12 with kickstarts and the big barricade is locked at 17, 16 with kickstarts

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  • Seeing as how flinch/resilience is relevant NOW I don’t see the point in bringing that up seeing as how we’re discussing current events lol. It is not easy for hunter to build a balanced resil/mobility/recov setup because the armor doesn’t drop with those splits no matter what armor stat mod you try and focus with. Warlock and titan don’t need 100 mobility so it is fairly easy to get 40-50 Mobil with 100/100 of resil/recov without tanking the other stats. For hu that is not the same case. In order to compensate for lack of recovery you’d HAVE to run a healing build. I don’t dislike the resilience changes because it needed a function however the stat distribution of hu gear counteracts viability without running so pretty crutch stuff like invis or solar healing builds. Again that’s still less of a cooldown than hu dodge unless you run garbage marksman which honestly unless you’re on void you’d might as well just dodge in place lol

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  • hunter have very good exotics and all very good elemental exotics barks,gravtion forfeit, wormhusk, young arhkramha graps, oath keepers, aythrs embrace, omnioculus, dragons shadow, lucky pants with last word, frosties with 5 second dodges, and gemeni's the argument can be made against all these hunters exotics as well

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  • Graviton is a waste of an exotic slot over omni if you’re a invis crutch baby. Young aham comes with a learning curve most people give up on. wormhusk gets shut down easily, gemini only works against people who are radar dependent or have low grade headsets. Very FEW good hu run lucky pants over more useful things like dragon shadow.. frostees would probably be broken if the majority of hu abilities hadn’t already been nerfed. However it is nutty with the recent radiant dodge but that requires you to build into it specifically which isn’t easy to do. Name one hu ability that can one shot though? Shatterdive is gone so I’ll wait and knifes most people don’t even use probably lol Oathkeeprs only works for Le Monarque crutch use and again can be shut down when aped. Aryth embrace is another rare exotic very seldom used in PvP, also a waste of an exotic slot.

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  • titans have no one shot abilities other than p greaves, or the two part melee for solar, hunters have knifes, flux grenades, and shatter dive can still one shot and warlocks don't have any one shot abilities

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  • Are you a titan main?

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  • yes but I play all three with titan 60% warlock 25% and hunter 15 %

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  • 👀 makes sense

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  • Edited by Copy: 6/30/2022 11:45:38 AM
    same can be said to you as well also you are using lorely right now a little hypocritical don't you think

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  • I study all 3 classes and have played all 3 since d1 beta. titan and lock are easier to use imo but for some they’ll just get themselves killed in most engagements against a better player. Hu has better combat agility but isn’t the fastest class anymore nor can agility save you from most things in close quarters lol. My titan a warlock are pretty well built they just don’t suit my overall playstyle since I’m used to not using abilities. I need a minimum of 60-80 mobility on both to compensate. Every class has its corks. I enjoy titan in PvE more than PvP though lol the hammer is fun to use. The testing and statistics are available for everything so misinformation/bias is a choice. And If melee and shotgun aren’t in your top 3 to 5 weapons of destruction I’d be very surprised seeing as how titan can benefit the most from close quarters combat

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  • Edited by iMoonchildi: 6/30/2022 11:39:21 AM
    I’ve seen/played with titans that spam shoulder charge with both dunemarchers/peregrine greaves. Dunemarchers are devastating on middle tree striker titan. You can have 98% health and shoulder charge will kill you majority of the time or it’ll leave you stunned to high hell/burning to death ready to be punched on. Which is why most titans just shoulder charge/bubble and shotgun melee 🤷🏽‍♀️ more options and easy to use in comparison to ONE knife that can one shot on precision kill. Even with solar changes o haven’t been killed once by a weighted knife because I don’t stand still or just ran at people in a straight line like a bot 😂 Arc is one of the LEAST used classes on hu right now with void/solar 3.0 and again flux grenade most people can’t even use probably and is a Waste over a faster charging arc bolt grenade which has more use in multiple situations anyway. Heck arc hu isn’t even useful in PvE 😂 arcstrider is a shell of what it used to be. Fam shatterdive does not oneshot people at all you literally have to be weak lol otherwise it just knocks you back, It’s been tested lol. knives are a learning curve that most give up on because it’s not a simple shield bash. Best use you can get out of glacial nade is to block lanes or create a wall in order to res a teammate. Lock has enough tick damage abilities that are game changing enough and a pretty quick melee really no class ability should be able to one shot in general imo.

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