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10/26/2010 4:02:16 PM
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Grenade Launcher 101

By now we all know how awesome the Grenade Launcher is and how much butt it kicks. Yep, it kicks a whole bunch of butt, but today I'll show you how unfrigginbelievably useful our beloved ProPipe can be if you know how to use it properly. To aid me in my quest of informing you, I have prepared a little fotostory. Imagine this scenario: [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913820_Full.jpg]You are being shot by an enemy sniper and pushed back into cover.[/url] If you peek out for too long, the enemy will take off your hat with ease. Seems like a desperate situation and guess what, your trusty Grenade Launcher is the desperate measure! [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913797_Full.jpg]Seek out your enemy[/url], pop out of your cover and [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913836_Full.jpg]shoot a Grenade right in his direction.[/url] Remember, you want to hold the trigger down to perform a perfectly timed detonation right under his family jewels. The only problem is, you can't really see where your grenade is because you are behind cover and can't peek out. You probably know by now that the ProPipe has this very handy feature of letting you know the [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913878_Full.jpg]distance between you and your grenade.[/url]But how do you know when it is in the vicinity of your enemy? Let's have a look at the display that is attached to the side of the ProPipe. It shows you the distance and status of your primed grenade. Ok, so as we have seen before, while the grenade is [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913856_Full.jpg]airborne[/url] the display will show you [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913878_Full.jpg]distance and status.[/url] [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913866_Full.jpg]When the grenade approaches a player[/url] (friendly or foe), the display will give you [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913862_Full.jpg]additional information about the amount of entities inside the blast radius.[/url] Notice the skull with the x1 next to it? That's the signal for you to [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913901_Full.jpg]let go of the trigger[/url] and [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7913907_Full.jpg]blast your enemy into nirvana.[/url] Mission accomplished :D But wait, that's not it! There are more possible applications for this feature. You could plant a grenade near a lift to observe player movement and warn your team about any incoming hostiles. I bet there are way more uses for this and I would like to hear them from you. Give me your ProPipe tactics! [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BravoZulu That EMP blast the grenade gives off? Same as any other EMP hit, it kills a vehicle's mobility instantly. Great for bringing down Falcons and Banshees to jacking level as well as disabling Ghosts, Wraiths and any other ground-based vehicle. Take care, as the vehicle can still fire.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] scmitar1 [url=http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i178/Funkybrother117/reach_7917127_Full.jpg]Be careful, because I think dead bodies count as entities.[/url][/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lacrimor I'd recommend aiming where they're going to be, because you have to [u]compensate for the time it takes for the Grenade to travel.[/u] Also, it's clearly noted in the Reach manual that this is a [u]medium/long range weapon,[/u] (not quite as long range as a Sniper Rifle though) therefore you can use the emp the same way you use the plasma pistol. I wouldnt reccomend that because ammo is rare, and it's a lot more fun taking out groups of enemies. Sword Base is fantastic for this weapon, aiming at walls, bouncing them around corners is just awesome-brings back memories of the Magsec handgun from Perfect Dark. Oh yeah and you can hold the charge for the grenade, effectively turning it into a proximity mine. I don't use that though because the Reload time for this weapon is pretty long and my "mines" usually get destroyed by grenades, however I can see some fantastic scenarios of using this in Infection or CTF![/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Llionboy4 you forgot the main thing, bounce a shot if they are close, only aim high if desperate or aiming at an opponent who is running for their lives(a bounce will slow the grenade and it won't catch them). if you do it right, people get pissed.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ATuin Minor When fighting characters like jackals, try to aim the grenade in primary mode so it air bursts behind them, nullifying their shields. [/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MATCLAN Regular detonations pack more of a punch than manual detonations but are obviously less of a utility. But if you want to destroy vehicles use the EMP first to stun them then unload with the regular grenades for more damage. Also use the normal grenades for groups of enemies as the blast radius is bigger.[/quote] [b]Mythbusting evolved[/b] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] danoob You might want to see [url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/M319_Individual_Grenade_Launcher#Tracking_System]this[/url], and research on it a bit. I have yet to test it out for myself, but with a better explanation the Pro Pipe might impossibly prove even [i]more[/i] useful![/quote] I tried this and it didn't work. Here are pictures: [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=12205071&player=R1gaT0ny]I aim at my enemy and the reticle is red.[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=12205100&player=R1gaT0ny]He starts moving slowly, but steadily.[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=12205104&player=R1gaT0ny]I shoot while the crosshair is still red.[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=12205107&player=R1gaT0ny]The grenade travels and I keep my reticule on the opponent.[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=12205112&player=R1gaT0ny]The grenade misses even though I kept the reticle on my enemy and it was red throughout the entire process.[/url] I tried this several times over different distances and with both firing modes. I also tried to track land vehicles aswell as airborne targets. It never worked Myth busted. ...for now. Feel free to test this yourself. UPDATE: [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CabbagesnKings Actually, that thing on Halopedia was partly right; there is a tracking system, but only for the Falcon-mounted grenade launcher. As far as the individual launcher goes, your information is spot-on. Good stuff.[/quote] tl;dr There's a skull icon in the Grenade Launcher's display that shows the amount of players in the blast radius. [Edited on 05.27.2011 10:03 AM PDT]
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  • Awesome thread, thanks for the help

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  • I re-shot my Paradiso Grenade Video so you don't have to look at it in Theatre to see how I aimed. It's [u]Rendered[/u]

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  • Yeah I tested that and its true, thats so cool. That makes it much easier to use it for Ctf Defense now

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lacrimor [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RigaTony tl;dr There's a skull icon in the Grenade Launcher's display that shows the amount of players in the blast radius.[/quote] Wait, what? That sounds really cool, I gotta check that out tonight. [/quote] Lol that's what the whole story was about...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RigaTony tl;dr There's a skull icon in the Grenade Launcher's display that shows the amount of players in the blast radius.[/quote] Wait, what? That sounds really cool, I gotta check that out tonight. Also forgot to mention that the round must travel a certain distance before it's armed.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lacrimor [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RigaTony btw I'm still looking for suggestions and tactics. Post them if you have 'em.[/quote] Cool sorry I didnt see that. I'd recommend aiming where they're going to be, because you have to [u]compensate for the time it takes for the Grenade to travel.[/u] Also, it's clearly noted in the Reach manual that this is a [u]medium/long range weapon,[/u] (not quite as long range as a Sniper Rifle though) therefore you can use the emp the same way you use the plasma pistol. I wouldnt reccomend that because ammo is rare, and it's a lot more fun taking out groups of enemies. Sword Base is fantastic for this weapon, aiming at walls, bouncing them around corners is just awesome-brings back memories of the Magsec handgun from Perfect Dark. Oh yeah and you can hold the charge for the grenade, effectively turning it into a proximity mine. I don't use that though because the Reload time for this weapon is pretty long and my "mines" usually get destroyed by grenades, however I can see some fantastic scenarios of using this in Infection or CTF![/quote] Nice, added to OP.

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  • wow I never knew about that... thanks.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RigaTony btw I'm still looking for suggestions and tactics. Post them if you have 'em.[/quote] Cool sorry I didnt see that. I'd recommend aiming where they're going to be, because you have to [u]compensate for the time it takes for the Grenade to travel.[/u] Also, it's clearly noted in the Reach manual that this is a [u]medium/long range weapon,[/u] (not quite as long range as a Sniper Rifle though) therefore you can use the emp the same way you use the plasma pistol. I wouldnt reccomend that because ammo is rare, and it's a lot more fun taking out groups of enemies. Sword Base is fantastic for this weapon, aiming at walls, bouncing them around corners is just awesome-brings back memories of the Magsec handgun from Perfect Dark. Oh yeah and you can hold the charge for the grenade, effectively turning it into a proximity mine. I don't use that though because the Reload time for this weapon is pretty long and my "mines" usually get destroyed by grenades, however I can see some fantastic scenarios of using this in Infection or CTF!

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  • Very usefull!! Thanks!

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  • I can't believe I never knew about any of that! Thanks for the tips! *gives the OP a JABBERWOCK xeno point* Tip: Unless you are absolutely sure of your aim, or your target is very far away, very close, or in a position where they can't maneuver, NEVER aim to directly hit them just by aiming at them! It is far easier to learn the arc's and distance of bounces to directly hit your target then doing so through the air. [Edited on 10.26.2010 1:12 PM PDT]

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  • THANKS FOR YO AWESOME TIPS!!!!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lacrimor this Grenade Launcher is definitely no Noob Tube![/quote] Exactly, it's a ProPipe. I really like how you 'sploded that Laser guy :D btw I'm still looking for suggestions and tactics. Post them if you have 'em.

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  • I have two [u]Flawless[/u] kills using the Grenade Launcher in my FileShare. I really recommend you see it, it's rendered too. However I recorded the video wrong, so if you want to see me using it properly, you should watch it on your Xbox. The first kill was from a person above the portal in Paradiso, the second was much better, it was me taking out a Spartan Laser guy. I rarely get such clean kills, but i'm really proud of these. Respect to Bungie for totally destroying the Thumper from Call of Duty, this Grenade Launcher is definitely no Noob Tube!

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  • DAMN! Nice.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BR131 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nox Kreiker Never noticed the enemy-within-radius feature. Thanks for that.[/quote][/quote]

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  • I had no idea about the threat indicator, I will definitely put it to good use. Thanks.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BravoZulu Okay then, I'll elaborate on my earlier post. It's pretty well known. That EMP blast the grenade gives off? Same as any other EMP hit, it kills a vehicle's mobility instantly. Great for bringing down Falcons and Banshees to jacking level as well as disabling Ghosts, Wraiths and any other ground-based vehicle. Take care, as the vehicle can still fire.[/quote] Now that's what I'm talking about! Added to the OP.

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  • Okay then, I'll elaborate on my earlier post. It's pretty well known. That EMP blast the grenade gives off? Same as any other EMP hit, it kills a vehicle's mobility instantly. Great for bringing down Falcons and Banshees to jacking level as well as disabling Ghosts, Wraiths and any other ground-based vehicle. Take care, as the vehicle can still fire. [Edited on 10.26.2010 11:37 AM PDT]

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  • Thank you for all the positive feedback :D My offer still stands, if you post good ProPipe strategies I will include them in the OP. I'm trying to start some kind of list with tips and tricks in order to help new players or players who just didn't have much to do with the ProPipe. So, go ahead, think of cool ways to use the ProPipe and its awesome features.

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  • Thumbs up soldier! Noone even touches the thing because they can't figure out how to use it. I'm thinking I may pick it up more often myself.

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  • Dang! I've been checking out a bunch of forum posts and this is the first one I've happened upon that has helped and made sense! Great job! I'll be sure to practice it up! Way to go RigaTony :)

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  • I love the GL in the game and didn't know this. Very cool! Thanks for the tips. Took out a warthog in matchmaking with the GL on Invasion Slayer. Epic double kill. :D

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  • Great tips. Never even noticed the display on the grenade launcher. :)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BLACK0UT237 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KnuckLes8I0 Damn I never noticed the skull icon, thanks.[/quote][/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KnuckLes8I0 Damn I never noticed the skull icon, thanks.[/quote]

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  • Nice shot.

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