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Edited by ImperialStew:
8/20/2021 11:56:16 AM
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Fighting Lion Nerf- "You should eat soup with your chopsticks"
Picture this:
A man walks into a bakery and picks up a loaf of bread. First he salts the loaf, and then proceeds to tear it in half, carve out the insides, and the stomp all over it. He then looks at the baker and says "What a nice loaf of bread! I hope you eat it with a fork though."
I'm about to rant about the fighting lion (FL) nerf, but before I do so, I want to say that the rest of the twab was excellent, I just feel like this shouldn't get swept under the rug with all the good changes drawing people's focus.
the fighting lion nerf to reload speed is asinine. FL is not good or used because of it's reload perks but for its primary ammo and wall bounciness. Manually reloading this weapon is much better than utilizing it's pretty bad reload perks. Bungie knows this but still felt the need to nerf the best way to reload this weapon because they feared a little grenade spam from some people in pvp. A much better solution to this theorized problem would be to give FL its own magazine cap in pvp, but no it needs to get possibly one of the worst nerfs in the game instead. To need to hit 2 enemies at least to be able to reload is unreasonable for pvp and some parts of pve. It also completely kills the catalyst's reload speed buff. Then to add salt to a wound, they call it a light nerf and condescend us for not using the weapon the way they intended.
This nerf should not be ignored. It is unnecessary and kills a really fun weapon. Emphasis on "fun" since this weapon isn't meta and isn't amazing either, it's just a lot of fun to use normally.
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1 ReplyGLs are highly complained about, one of them can be spammed easily right now and more after the infinite ammo change. Why would you want to see a fighting lion meta and then see it changed instead of seeing it changed before hand.
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Another case of stuff being nerfed due to pvp.
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I’m too high to get the joke bro can someone reply to me to tell me about it
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Edited by DNF2005: 8/21/2021 12:39:06 AMDon’t think it will do any good but I am posting on all the fighting lion threads Every time a twab comes out I just shake my head from side to side. Can’t believe people are praising the twab when it is filled with nerfs Can’t believe how they killed this weapon I only have about 3k kills with mine but I did use it this season I am baffled with the crap they come up with I think this is the only weapon in the game that PUNISHES you for missing a shot or shooting a single target I will say it again who has ask for infinite primary ammo ???? The ONLY time I run out of primary ammo is doing GM’s because the champions and bosses are bullet sponges Fighting Lion < blue engram
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1 Replynice monologue bot lol
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Edited by Blueberry Bot: 8/21/2021 12:54:22 AMWasn’t it you shouldn’t eat soup with a fork yesterday? Edit: Ramen is indeed a soup you eat with chopsticks. #uldrensucks
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17 RepliesA quick swap weapon that reloads after cleanup kills - working as intended.
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6 Replies"A little grenade spam" you fool look at the bigger picture
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7 RepliesMan heres a guy who doesn’t know how to use the in game mechanics of these weapons, mods, and abilitys that all work to fix thoses kinds of issues. Its not like Fighting Lions whole point was to POP shields or get their health low and hot swapping to another weapon for clean up which by getting that quick kill RELOADS THE LAUNCHER. Oh man the reload speed is so slow, I cant Hunter dodge reload, titan barricade reload buff, GL reload mod, any number of other things that reload a weapon. Its such a tragedy we now have to use the weapon as it was designed to be used OH NO SAY IT AINT SO.
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Do people still use that FL thing? I haven't seen it used by anyone for years. Mine has been in my vault for years as well. Only thing going for it is primary ammo. Salvagers Salvo leaves it in the dust even thou it's special ammo.
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Gls in general (as many other things )destroy the game. Nerf them all I say
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1 ReplySkip the middle man and just eat the chopsticks
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3 RepliesPicture this . Just tldr it next time chief
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Edited by Klaus_Reaper (Adept): 8/21/2021 11:01:25 AMDouble post delete this please.*
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Fun? Ha! No thanks
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15 RepliesEdited by Grim: 8/20/2021 11:23:50 AMThats bungie for ya, two step forward ten steps back. There track record for bad ideas for balancing their very broken sandbox never ceases to amaze me. Give all primary weapons infinite ammo but slap on a bunch of unnecessary crap and nerf one of the most under used gl in the game to "balance" it. All I'm asking is why? Why do you have to continuously mess with stuff, you could have just left primary alone nobody asked for this, its not even hard to get primary ammo. This is just unnecessary what did a dev think that this was a smart idea or is this just more dumb ideas from the streamer community?
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my question is will the zero reload stat cancel out the +20 to reload speed the catalyst gives?
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I eat soup dumplings with chopsticks. Roll the credits.
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Just drill a hole through the end of your chopsticks and drink the soup, duh. -bungie
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Edited by X EARTH W0LF X: 8/20/2021 9:01:59 PMComplaining that an infinite ammo special weapon reloads too slow. I’m getting serious Icebreaker vibes right now. If you don’t like the change, switch to a special ammo GL; there are plenty of good ones. Ohh but those don’t have infinite ammo? Well I guess you’ll just have to compromise then won’t you? Just aim better I guess.
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7 RepliesIts a balance nerf. Infinite ammo 200 damage per shot or 150 for a proximity explosion is very overpowered. Also...you can use loader mods.
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I use forku and knifu to drink soupu!
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2 RepliesEdited by IronHatchett: 8/20/2021 3:56:30 PMIt has infinite ammo, and the only nerf to it was it takes longer to reload. Cry about something that is an actual problem. Again, a [b][i]grenade launcher[/i][/b] with [b][i]infinite ammo.[/i][/b]
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They literally said infinite ammo grenade launcher = not fun in the crucible so they nerfed it's reload. They could have always changed it to a special weapon or severely nerfed it's damage. This likely is also to hinder people spamming targets with it in PvE, you can still do it but it'll take twice as long as it would without the nerf.
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[quote]"You should eat soup with your chopsticks"[/quote] Using a straw would be just fine. I guess that's what they call a cheese. State of the game!
