The thing is that in D1 we didn’t have to put up with this garbage and by the time the age of triumph came around they had finally fixed the infusing system and it actually worked unlike the setup we have in D2 which is a total disaster maybe if bungie should used some commonsense and things might be a lot better. #Remove enhancement cores from infusing

Its already reached critical mass. A significant portion of the community has already decided they aren't willing to grind the current system.

I have no idea why the dev team has such a die-hard love for cores. Woefully out of touch.

Why are people arguing for a pain point that doesn't effect them. As someone who plays almost every day, I hate it when I see people in here who say, "infusion ins't a problem I got hundreds of cores stockpiled in my inventory." If you have hundreds of them then why are you supporting them. Imagine being a casual player who can only play an hour or two a day. I highly doubt that any casual player wants to sit around and wait for a half hour for a high value target to farm for cores. I think this issue single-handedly drives casual players (a large portion of players) away from the game. This current infusion system doesn't let you look the way you want or play the way you want unless you have cores to spare for infusion. Enhancement cores should be used as a system for mastery, NOT a system for progression. Take cores out of infusion and put them somewhere else that doesn't effect the casual players experience.

Boring.

If you don't read all of this, I don't blame you. But if you do, I think everyone will be able to relate, or at the very least, understand To everybody, especially Bungie, attempting to justify a broken system, please hear my perspective. I have defended Destiny for the past what, 5 years? I'm a day 1 D1 veteran who has always shut down the haters. I support bungie through thick and thin. But I also have no lifed this game and I hoarde. So I have every material I will ever need. I have thousands of crucible tokens, vanguard tokens, raid tokens, etc to help my lagging titan level up whenever needed. I have thousands of gunsmith materials, hundreds of MW cores, and hundreds of mods components (not going to waste them now until infusion cost is changed). I am far from the typical person complaining because he didn't put in the time that another player did. I am also in a select group of players like me whose progress and stock of materials should not dictate the economy for average players. With this being said, I now have a unique perspective of the game. After years of me hoping she would, my gf has finally begun Destiny. I now see the massive flaw with this game. She has been leveling quickly due to my guidance and tips (which would be substantially more difficult if she didn't have someone like me to help her maximize efficiency while still having fun.) But here's what sucks: I was so excited when she got raiden flux, for example. She loves arcstrider. So for about half an hour at best, she loved the exotic perk from RF. Once it was outclassed by about 20 levels, she has never worn it since. How about Origin Story or Kibou? I was stoked once again since she loves auto rifles. 20 minutes later, she never used those two again. She is always maxed on glimmer and has a fair amount of planetary materials, so if infusion was legit cost, she could still be using some of these coveted items. But no. She has 1 masterwork core. Wtf is she gonna do? She doesn't complain much, cause we are having fun but she is missing out on using all the best legendaries and exotics the game has to offer. Instead of getting excited about a drop (which I know to be an exciting drop), she simply doesn't give a shit, because it might as well just be another blue item to her, soon to be outleveled by the next drop. Hello?! Isn't a huge part of Destiny being excited about drops? C'mon, I'm sure we can all agree here. This is a problem. To demand a new or casual player use blue gear mixed with mediocre purples from level 0 all way to level 700 is a massive -blam!-ing problem and an astoundingly shortsighted position to take. She does not grind like me, so it will be a long time before she hits 700, and once she does, unless I get her to farm Spyder bounties instead of doing the fun stuff we enjoy, she still will not be able to infuse anything, let alone ever masterwork a -blam!-ing gun. I hope my perspective hits home with somebody at Bungie. I am as much a veteran as you can get, and I have a rookie gf, and seeing how diminishing the experience is for her is truly a shame. Every exotic she gets is vaulted. What's the point? Most of them being mission rewards are underleveled anyways. Bungie, don't you want people to enjoy the legendaries and exotics in this game? Why waste the substantial efforts of the gear development team? Why cripple so much of the playerbase? This is absolutely absurd. I actually used to be one of the ones defending enhancement cores for infusion. I get it completely: level smart, use same gear pieces, use exotics, pull from collections, use the Brother Vance farm, don't infuse every 10 levels, etc, I've heard it all and done it all. Yet I see past all that now, having a unique perspective from both a no lifer's and a noob's point of view. Removing cores from infusion causes zero issues. Absolutely zero. There's no emotional feeling I get from infusing. That's a bullshit excuse from Bungie to make us play longer, to attempt to excuse the chores they want us to do. Keeping them as part of infusion only causes headaches, less fun, more tedious tasks, and more people leaving the game. My gf and I have been having fun together in D2, but there's another D2 that just came out that doesn't seem to have one glaring major issue that the community constantly asks to be fixed.... maybe we will try that out soon. Because blues and shitty purples can only keep a player interested for so long. #removecoresfrominfusion Sincerely, A lifelong Destiny veteran and defender, who has finally seen the light, and I can only hope Bungie listens. PS Paul Tassi Forbes article says it perfectly. TL:DR The economy should not be dictated by people like me who have no-lifed this game and hoarded for years. We will always have more than everyone else; so be it. But allow everyone else to enjoy the game too, and not be crippled because of the no-lifers and their outrageous stock of materials. They are not hurting anyone by having a bunch of materials, but Bungie is hurting everyone else by dictating economy according to these select players with tons of everything. Edit: I made this it's own post so hopefully more can see it: Thanks for the positive feedback https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251441917?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1

Only ones that complain are 12 year old kids just wanting attention.

Stop playing. I'm not saying we need to boycott, but Bungie needs to see players are fed up. It might not be a problem for some, but that doesn't mean there isn't a problem.

[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251450868?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1]Edited Version: Those that Prefer No Emoji's~Follow Me.[/url] Bungie: 🤭We Hear you! Bungie: 🥳based on your feedback🥳 we will Remove Scrapper Bounties and add Gunsmith Bounties to earn more cores. Community:😐😑 IT WON'T BE ENOUGH! THIS IS NOT A FIX!😤😡🤬 Bungie: 🧐We Hear you!..🖕Ahem: Our hope(Just Leave it alone🧟‍♂️ Guardians)is that this increased access and control😈over Enhancement Core acquisition will help improve the balance of materials being earned vs. materials being used.🤥🤫 Community:🗣 Bungie, 🗣🗣BUNgie, BUNGIE!!🗣🗣🗣 don't you get it??? [b]“If enhancement cores are removed from infusion, the problem will be ________.” [/b]🙏🙏🙏🤨🤨😡 Bungie: 🙄...infusion won’t be as impactful. 🕴🏼We keep a close eye on the amount of infusion materials being earned versus how many are being used and will continue to make adjustments as needed.” Community: 💩🤮🤯🤯🤯😫🙅‍♀️🙅‍♂️😡😤 1)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418699?sort=0&page=0]Wow Even the Forbes Guy Thinks Your TWAB Solution Is Terrible[/url] 2)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418262?sort=0&page=0]It's a game/hobby, not a job.[/url] 3)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251417963?sort=0&page=0]Paul Tassi said it perfectly![/url] 4) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418573?sort=0&page=0]FORBES:[/url] 5)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418097?sort=0&page=0]At this point, Bungie is begging us to boycott the game[/url] 6)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251412308?sort=0&page=0]The TWABs (Solution) To Enhancement Cores is Unacceptable[/url] 7)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251422793?sort=0&page=0]Can we get rid of stupid enhancement cores?[/url] 8) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251452307?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1]Play a Game Where The Devs Listen[/url] 9)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251411799?sort=0&page=0]Enahancement core changes show bungie doesn't care about our feedback.[/url] 10)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251428261?sort=0&page=0]The Core Poll[/url] 11) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251414088?sort=0&page=0]#CoresRemoveChoice and a Proposing a Boycott?[/url] 12)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251419308?sort=0&page=0]Let's show bungie they need to remove master cores or change to only one per infushion please up vote![/url] 13)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251410810?sort=0&page=0]#Remove enhancement cores[/url] 14)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251436487?sort=0&page=0]#Remove enhancement cores from infusing bungie[/url] 15)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251416524?sort=0&page=0]Remove Infusion Cores simply to gain back some customer goodwill[/url] 16) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251453120?sort=0&page=0]REMOVE. CORES. FROM INFUSION. COSTS.[/url] 17)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418537?sort=0&page=0]You should start listening to your community rather than say your listening[/url] 18)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251411913?sort=0&page=0]THE INVESTMENT TEAM IS TONE DEAF![/url] 19)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251419439?sort=0&page=0]Ditch the cores![/url] 20)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251438928?sort=0&page=0]The Infusion Problem Will Get Worse Each Season[/url] 21)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251416147?sort=0&page=0]The enhancement core bounties are no fix[/url] 22) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251427662?sort=0&page=0]Why replace scrapper bounties when you can have both?[/url] 23) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418315?sort=0&page=0]The amount of ways you get Enhancement Cores is not the problem. It's how wasteful using them for infusion is.[/url] 24)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251411497?sort=0&page=0]Are you happy with the announced changes regarding Enhancement Cores next season?[/url] 25) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251422336?sort=0&page=0]Is Bungie Not Gonna Address 95% Of The Communities Concern?[/url] 26)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251436069?sort=0&page=0]Congrats Bungie![/url] 27) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418266?sort=0&page=0]Thank you Bungie Dev Team! I finally made a "meaningful choice"[/url] 28) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251439614?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1]Masterwork cores need to return. #coresremovechoice[/url] 29)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418636?sort=0&page=0]Tired of my characters looking like patch work dolls for the sake of light level[/url] 30)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251412287?sort=0&page=0]Bungie doesn’t respect player time investment[/url] 31)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418128?sort=0&page=0]Bungie out of touch[/url] 32)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251413867?sort=0&page=0]Strengthen Your Core (from a players perspective)[/url] 33)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251441917?sort=0&page=0]A unique perspective on cores and infusing[/url] 34)[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251418132?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=0]Letter to Devs -[/url] 35) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251450868?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1]A Message to the Bungie Team! -Click Me-[/url] 36) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251441735?sort=0&page=0]Don’t give up on destiny[/url] 37) [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/251434856?sort=0&page=0]Open invitation to any Bungie developers that would like to have a discussion with the forum community on investment and progression[/url] Bungie: 😣😬🤐🤐🤐 Thinking:*😏 We told em in the TWAB the changes won't come until next season😆. that gives us more than enough time to come up with another Non-solution. 😎GG Team...GG.* Bungie: 👮‍♂️Guardians, guardians...👮‍♀️Settle Down. 🕴🏼You know Us.🕴🏼 Remember the Good old 🕹Halo Days(We Sure Don't)!? I can 🙄assure you that we are listening(⚙️⚙️⚙️). As always, we’ll be continuously 😴monitoring this item economy, along with your 💩feedback to assess its effectiveness.”

[quote]The Infusion Problem Will Get Worse Each Season[/quote] I didn't read your post, not because it was too long it's just knowing Bungie literally turned this game into a game mainly about infusion, max level and grinding for material when the game should be about grinding for loot. The thing about reaching max whether it was just LL or PL in this game it literally means nothing because no one has or ever will need max to complete anything in this game. The thing about infusion is there is more than enough material but not enough loot added to the game to where gamers want to infuse items. The thing about the material is what I already said, and that is there is more than enough but nothing to really use the material on when it comes to infusing items let alone use as a currency in this game to purchase items. The lack of effort put in this game as a looter shooter has hurt this game more than anything else. I don't buy games just to grind for material especially when there isn't anything really to use that material on that is worth leveling up that some items are capped not allowing certain gear that might be worth using to be allowed to use the new mods. What did Bungie add to this game as far as loot with this new season? Barely anything at all so I'm stuck like we are all having to go through the same process as we already did with what, 1 new set of gear and barely anything else to chase? [spoiler]If anyone has hundreds of cores and other materials stacked up on their Guardian or in their vault as some brag about? (That is a Huge problem,) this means most things are not worth leveling up and you have all this material just stacking up for nothing. I don't care what anyone says, in D1 there was enough loot in the game that only some material stacked up as bad as most of the material does in D2. So all you gamers that brag about having more than enough material? Just a heads up, in a game that is supposed to be (a looter shooter?) the material isn't anything to brag about when there isn't any loot to use it on. It is just saying (you) spent hundreds of hours just grinding for material and material is not what this game need right now. It needs actual loot to chase.[/spoiler]

The problem with cores is that they are required for end game. But they are tied to early game activity that can deplete the players stash. What I mean by this, is just when we think we reached end game, they go and raise the light level and we have to start saving and grinding again. All for a resource that's already so scarce because they are drip feeding them to us. Just no need for using cores for "infusion". Masterworks, yeah ok. But infusion? No need, literally. Charge glimmer. Not to mention that this is all because they are running out of ideas to keep us engaged and they have recycled so much content they are running out of stuff to reskin. This is why we have time gated exotic gear. They are running out of fresh ideas. When all they have to do is read these forums and the players are literally saying what they would like. I know you can't please everyone, but still.

Same here. The season after Forsaken dropped was when I got fed up with the fact that I masterworked all my armor and weapons for nothing. Truth is once masterworked an item should never require cores for infusion again. That would make masterworking meaningful instead of what it is now... meaningless. I stopped playing about three months ago for a month, came back for maybe two days to find no new content in our promised "trickle of content ", read the plan for Season of the Drifter, and haven't been back since except to sign in if Xur has anything I don't have(which I check online before signing in). I'm so fed up with the bad decisions being made I don't want to contribute my number to the daily playerbase, even to play D1 just in case that gets counted(which it might since the owner of Destinytracker is such a sycophant). My main sticking point is the core infusion combined with the seasonal power increases that happen for no reason. It's blatantly meant to inflate playtime numbers without creating new content. Until they either remove cores from infusion, allow masterworked items to not require further cores, or start having cores drop from everything in the game( strike= 2 cores, pvp match =2 cores, Public event= 1 core, 2 patrols =1 core, etc) I'm out. I'm not the only one fed up obviously either... the playerbase is reclining even more than the numbers show, since it's a serious issue when new content doesn't bring the daily population up... and worse... it's actually going down.

The next raid boss should be a giant Masterwork Core.