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11/20/2018 5:06:00 AM
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Scout rifles are trash in crucible
With this new Meta right now I personally feel like scouts are garbage and get outgunned by everything. Wish they were good again because I miss being able to use them and being able to compete with other weapons. Anyone else feel the same?
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#destiny2
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1 Reply3 crits = 196 It’s not even 200 and forget about 4th shot. Plzzz increase headshot damage back to 71.
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Jade rabbit + equinox says your incorrect. Situational, yes... but great in long lanes. Great for shutting down snipers too.
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The problem is the map sizes. Using scouts on a map like equinox is great. I've gotten 2 "we rans" using jade rabbit there. There are no other open maps like equinox though. Maybe vostok but that depends on game mode too.
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Jade rabbit 3 taps but for whatever reason when I use it, it doesn’t feel “powerful” like a scout should
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A good rolled vouchesafe with full auto can be very competitive. Most of the maps are too small tho.
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#bringbackcombinedarms This would allow scout rifles and snipers to be used more and less shotguns.
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It’s more of a map design problem than the actual gun. There are only two maps where scout rifles are actually viable. The rest that have good lanes are better suited to pulse rifles.
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High Impact Scout Rifles need to deal 71(or more) to the Head. Right now it's what, a measley 66? At the same ranges, an Adaptive Frame 3 round burst Pulse Rifle deals around 93 damage to the Head if all rounds connect. 108 damage if it's an Aggressive Frame 4 round burst Pulse Rifle. Scout Rifles shoot the slowest while dealing the least amount of damage. They are still garbage in PvE and PvP. And require a significant buff for both activities.
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I love using Garden Progeny or Jade Rabbit or Frontier Justice. Problem is scouts as a whole are not general at all. I haven’t tried the low impact scouts by Veist yet though. May have to give them a shot.
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Pfft. Jade. 'nuff said.
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Bet. we just game back from a 5-2 countdown game because they were rushing shotguns and we just held the lanes by switching to scouts
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MIDA is pretty good
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Hate to break it to ya, but scouts were kinda sorta always this bad. [spoiler]notice I said scouts plural, meaning more than one before you mention MIDA. [/spoiler]
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Presumably scouts were nerfed to appease the PvP streamers- the “bug” which nerfed scouts just happened to occur when the major Crucible changes were being implemented. Therefore, Bungie will not bring scouts back to pre-Forsaken state without the permission of the said PvP Twitchers. In other words, don’t hold your breath.
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Yeah I have to agree. Once again nerfing ruined an entire weapon class. I have several god rolls collecting dust in my vault. I’d love to be using them but even after the buff they aren’t a smart or viable choice in the current meta. Total shame and I miss using my Nameless, Polaris and Jade Rabbit.
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Metronome!!!
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Not really, with the right perks the one from drifter is godly. Want to when all engagements? Play the outskirts of the map and fire away
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They dont suck. People use them wrong. You cant run around with one. Best for holding a zone and switch to something else when moving. On certain maps i can still wreck with my nameless
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They are fun though
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Same thing was said season 1 about pulse rifles. Pretty sure come season 5 or 6 or 7 or whatever season they choose, they will rotate to a scout meta. I'm a bit surprised they didn't do the Bow meta considering it's the new kid on the block.
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Yes. I don't see scout rifles as being all that useful. They can still hold their own, depending on the circumstances, but against pulse rifles and bows? Yikes.
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i can see your point but it also depends on what scout and firing archetype but i do agree still
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I feel that the Lightweights and High Impacts are useable. Mostly MIDA and Polaris Lance. You do have to play your range on Scouts and definitely play that strafe on the MIDA. Polaris Lance is still a staple in my big map loadout
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3 RepliesYeah scouts don’t have the same magic they used to have. Multiple peeps have commented on that on the forums in the past. I was a big scout user but through forsaken have stayed mainly on pulses and hand cannons. I miss my jade rabbit.
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Yeah I’m with you on this. Scouts need a major buff. More ammo in the clip, more damage both body and crit and better handling. Improve these three things and scouts will become fun to use in both PVE and PVP.
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It’s not that they’re bad it’s that the maps are designed for close engagements which is terrible for Scouts, they shine on a couple maps but honestly why bother switching to one in the first place
