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Edited by Lewis: 10/9/2017 9:56:39 PM
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Do you enjoy Destiny 2? Detailed Explanation and thoughts on 'no grinding'

I prefer Destiny 1

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I prefer Destiny 2

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I prefer Destiny 2 if grinding returns (See below)

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[quote][b]Do you like Destiny 2? Really?[/b][/quote] For the Poll: I prefer Destiny 2 if grinding returns - By this I mean random rolls on weapons return, exotic farming, three of coins, strange coins, strikes being useful, bounty hunter challenges, gunsmith weapon tests etc.. After spending many weeks on Destiny 2 and many years on Destiny 1, my detailed review and feedback is shown below. Here is a truthful and simple list of the positive feedback and the negative feedback. [quote][b]Good / Positive aspects to Destiny 2:[/b][/quote] 1. [b]Public Events [/b]- show on the map, are more useful and give good rewards when required by player power/light level. Making it into Heroic and chances of Exotics are a very good idea too 2. [b]Eveverse / Bright Engrams[/b] - Good idea, but more of a 'pay to look good' for those who like to have style and color to their characters to impress. Think it's a good addition 3. [b]Vault improvements[/b] - Very neat. However, armor and weapons should be separate and dismantling ships/sparrows for the first time should give bright dust once and store the items 4. [b]Shaders[/b] - Great improvement, lots of choices and more options to customize evey gun/armor piece in the same shader 5. [b]Tokens for vendors on each planet [/b]- Thought this was good 6. [b]Powerful Gear [/b]- Good to level up quicker! 7. [b]Inventory[/b] split to all characters! Nice! 8. [b]Engrams[/b] have it's own slot and can open for any gear 9. [b]Infusing gear[/b] only allowed for that specific gear, great! 10. [b]New ability[/b] for Shield, Rift, etc - Good idea with insta reloads etc, I like it 11. [b] Improved Map [/b]- Looks much better and easier to navigate 12. [b]Clans[/b] - Clans and Seasons are a really good new feature [quote][b]Bad / Negative aspects to Destiny 2:[/b][/quote] 1. Factions are limited for a short time. 2. Multiplayer 4v4 and no 6v6. Makes the game too slow paced and makes it more teamwork 3. No leaderboards 4. No Heroic Strikes 5. No Bounty Hunter, replaced with challenges 6. Patrols remain the same, no new ones 7. Exotics drop more than rare engrams 8. More exotics from raid key chests than the raid legendary gear itself 9. Adventures are useless, give no benefit at end game other than more story 10. Raid is too easy and can be done with 2 players and within 30 minutes if you're good 11. Exotics aren't as fun as Destiny 1 Exotics, don't feel too powerful 12. Weapon Perks/Random Rolls removed and already bought 13. Motes of Light removed 14. All enemies have minor changes 15. Graphics have little change 16. Subclasses are almost exactly the same 17. Easier to level up subclasses 18. Kings Fall / Vault of Glass best raids ever made, make something similar!!! 19. Nightfalls, Raid & Powerful Gear useless when max light 20. Milestones replaced Quests, and are too short 21. Xur got sick and now sells hardly anything! 22. Heavy/Special Syths removed. 23. Nightfalls always timed, should be a new feature and bring back old NF style. 24. Raid revive tokens should be in a Heroic mode, then Prestige being whatever it is. 25. Nothing to do at end game. No grinding, no weapon random rolls to keep trying for. Makes everything pointless 26. Snipers have become useless and should be moved to the Energy category or should be buffed. 27. Trials more hardcore and advanced for good PVP players only, should have stayed 3v3 28. Iron Banner not 6v6 and now 4v4. Will be no point playing it once you have the weapons due to no random rolls. 29. Infusing has changed, which is good; however, it seems to be that even with this being the case, you can get to max light even quicker than before 30. Max light - You get there too quick and within a week, you have no point playing the game anymore 31. Gunsmith no longer lets you test weapons 32. All vendors don't show their current level in-game 33. Legendary Shards have no good use 34. Grimoire removed 35. Dead Ghosts removed 36. Ghosts no longer have a light/power level 37. No secrets and doors with keys like the Dreadnaught to explore 38. Quests are too short and there's not many 39. Regular Strikes are useless and not as fun as they use to be 40. Not much additional features, nothing to explore, no secrets etc, So, overall, I do NOT like Destiny 2 and I have spent more time on Destiny 1 DLC than I have on this, just simply because we can grind, continue to play, explore all the secrets and find dead ghosts, court of Oryx, Archons Forge, etc. There was just soo much to do in Destiny 1, now there's nothing. I was really disappointed the fact they removed grinding overall just because they wanted new players to complete mostly everything. But all the regular players have quit because there's nothing to do. They'll come on for a new DLC that they will complete within 1 or 2 weeks. Prison of Elders, Challenge of Elders, Gunsmith Testing, Exotic Quests, Using Exotics in general, Nightfalls, Raids, Bounty Hunter Challenges and Strikes were soo much fun in Destiny 1, now they are either gone or changed and it's not as fun in my opinion. A lot may agree or disagree, so give me your thoughts in the comments. This should be a Year 4 and everything should continue over with new features, not changing the good stuff to making it bad. Or worse than it already was. I heard Iron Banner was a 4v4, so I won't be playing it. Bring everyone's favorite 6v6 back!!! Bring our fun Sleeper Exotic back, bring back Red Death etc. Most things should have stayed and the new stuff should have been new like it was. Ever since Rise of Iron DLC, the whole game has gotten worse, starting from that DLC in Destiny 1. However there are some good new things as I mentioned, but a lot of the stuff we all liked is gone just because they want new players to get everything done. Should still have had an option for players to continue grinding and enjoying the game. Also with not much change? After all, the only thing Production Companies want these days are money. They don't care or listen to the community and what they want, they will try to make some changes but only if it doesn't effect their 'pay to look good' or 'pay to play' features so they can grab money from people. The same with every game. Yes, this is not World of Warcraft and I understand that Bungie wants to just GIVE you everything, but it makes our endgame experience useless and pointless to continue playing. They do this so that when a new player finishes and leaves the game, they will be happy and return when a DLC or new game comes out. They do this because why? Us players, you're going to come back either way right? So why would they change anything and give us grinding if they know we will come back anyway? Happy or not. Thoughts? Haters? Supporters? Leave your thoughts. [quote]Peace![/quote] Below are some others who give their opinions. Watch for a better understanding. Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g24i44UlW0A&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqyco2NYBOs&t=1541s
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  • I preferred destiny 1. I enjoyed the pve stuff in 2 but in all honesty I've only ever played destiny for its unique pvp. Sure it was unbalanced but it was fun as hell. I would've quit before the first expansion had it not been for crucible. But now the crucible is just boring. Abilities are weak, melee takes about 3-4 hits to kill people, health takes forever to regen, not to mention it feels like 10 armor doesn't help much against the guy with 5-4 armor. Just so much I don't like and it's already made me bored of destiny.

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    • D1 by a montherf***ing long shot.

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    • No surprise 72% prefers D1.

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      • [u][b]Questions I constantly ask myself when playing D2:[/b][/u] Why cant I prestige my character ? (every time I prestige like COD for example I get to choose one unique perk that gets added to my character permanently. Sense of power and fun factor !) Why did Bungie change the weapon system ? Wheres my vault that I can organize so its not a jumbled mess ? (No the organize options currently don't count because they are trash !) Wheres strike keys for loot chests ? (something to grind for) Wheres chests with cool loot at the end of strikes ? (something to grind for) Wheres the cool point system that was implemented into strikes at the end of D1 ? (fun factor) Where are the boss fights in the raid minus the last boss ? (fun factor) Wheres the cool unique weapons and armor from the raid that gives special perks ? (something to grind for / fun factor) Wheres the loot that actually drops from the raid not just the last boss ? (something to grind for / fun factor) Why am I getting tokens to turn into a vendor only to get a weapon or armor piece that's already my same power level after doing the raid ? (I should be getting weapons/armor at a higher light level which equals something to grind for) Wheres the cool ships/sparrows you could get after beating the raid ? (something to grind for) Why cant I choose different abilities I want for my subclass instead of only having 2 options that choose my abilities for me within each subclass ? (could have been additional fun factor) Why cant I delete shaders in bulk ? Why dont weapon mods have cool unique perks attached to them instead of lame ones that dont really make a difference ? (could have been something to grind for) Why cant I have a chance to string together perks when they proc ? (example: 3x stack damage by the time you get it and reload your weapon its gone. Let me have a few extra seconds so I can reload to try and string it together which would then equal FUN FACTOR) Wheres 6v6 crucible? Wheres rumble? Wheres mayhem? Wheres custom matches? Why did Bungie remove weapon rolls ? (The single thing most people would grind the game for including myself) Bungie had 3 years with Destiny 1 to learn how to make Destiny better and they were doing that or at least attempting. Destiny 2 should have been released with the same core elements that everyone loved from D1 but expanded on and made more innovative. Instead we get a watered down D2 where everything that players loved from D1 was gutted out of the game as if Bungie didnt learn a DAMN thing ! This is what a lot of the hardcore players are pissed about. Yes they made a few steps forward but a lot of huge steps back. I might be ok with static rolls but they really need some awesome weapons with cool perks. Weapons/armor that actually looks cool and have unique abilities, armor sets that when wearing the whole set you get special perks, Power weapons that actually hit hard, etc. Yes we have exotics but none of them WOW me. The weapons don't feel that much different from each other and there hasn't been one thing in this game that's made me say man I wish I could get that. This right here is the big one for me and I feel its whats missing from Destiny 2.

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      • I love not having to grind to unlock perks on weapons and armor. This way you keep getting new armor in progressively higher light without holding on to them for too long. Of course this highlights the issue of one-use shaders...

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      • Edited by KannibalKlown: 10/9/2017 1:49:51 AM
        Keep in mind I'm sick today. SO perhaps more snarky than usual. Also these are just my opinions I disagree with (negatives) 4. I'm fine with 4v4 5. I'm fine with this. We found too many loopholes and exploits in D1 if we could run the bounties anywhere. WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVEN! Anyone? 9. Yes, more story is pointless. Who wants that. Wait wait wait... wasn't that everyone's complaint in D1? Not enough story? 12. Half agree. Random drops would be fine (so long as they made it so you couldn't get anything TOO insane). But I'm fine without random re-rolls. That was toxic 16. Arc Strider, Sentinel, and Striker changed a fair amount. Sunsinger did as well but I don't like the new Sunsinger. 22. Glad for the removal. It made design too redundant. Build a strike mode where ammo is restricted, and bypass it with synths. So then you feel the need to use synths If you want to be useful. 26. Half agree. Snipers are useless even in PvE now. But no thanks on energy slot. We'll just get Sniper-Banner again. 32. And? Since it's not like we get loot on alternating levels or anything. I guess it's just a testosterone measuring stick? 36. I recall people hating that ghosts counted in late d1. But I guess any change is worth listing, miright? 38. I disagree on the length and frequency.

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        • Good post - Personal opinions here so don't slate me based on this...... Loving the new grenades. Slight and I do mean slightly underpowered in pvp but largely positive...... One hit fusion grenades were daft as fck. As were arc bolts and flame bases capable of an almost one hit wipe. Loving the new effects and level design. Stunning levels and AMAZING sound tracks. Hating - End game content and waiting for Tuesday's to feel like I need to play. HATING - The new raid and its shitty rinse and repeat mechanics and the new stealth mode splinter cell design on all sections. Dogs and even grabbing the underbelly chests = chore. The vault not having any degree of separation, pvp solely 4v4, no custom game modes, no mayhem, no big team battles, fixed rolls and 0 customization options.

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        • DESTINY 2 as a WHOLE... Don't just tell me it's about the endgame experience where D2 is suffering and lacking, because in my D1 day one player experience after a year and a half, I dabbled in Trials and the Raids after Skolas (not really a raid. It was end game) but I did not commit to endgame content. However I was still happy with all the other content to keep me playing. I think I am creating yet another post of my disappointment about D2 because I am quite frankly shocked that I don't want to turn on my Xbox and pick up my controller to shoot guardians and aliens in the head. There is no desire to rerun anything in D2 and there is no sense of ownership or gratification with weapons, gear and the lot. Customization is really gone. Literally. After you customize your weapon and gear with a shader after tons of glimmer spent, you lose it if you want to change it. What if I want to go back wanting to look metallic purple from new monarchy red????? I can't without making sure I have enough shaders and glimmer!!!! Stuuppidddd! Last night I get home with no desire to turn on my Xbox after only 4 weeks of D2 launch. Really? Instead I'm watching Charles Dickens BLEAK HOUSE on Amazon! Lol. I was naive when I first played Destiny and I was loyal to a fault because Deej and BUNGIE COMMITTED to continually make improvements, and to my knowledge D1 was the learning blocks to make D2 amazing. I'm really f ing frustrated and quite frankly resentful at BUNGIE. Such an insult to our intelligence. I'm done. (With my rant. Not the game. Well maybe right now. When's the next DLC?)

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        • I agree with most everything except for the shaders and infusing. Both should be like Destiny.

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        • I prefer Destiny 1, Y1. Everything that came after HoW was garbage.

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        • I would love to see vanilla D1 meet vanilla D2. They need to abort infusion. Rng progression and treating end game gear as upgrade material devalues gear and end game.

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