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9/22/2017 11:03:04 AM
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Free market health care or capitalism or whatever we had before was way better, at least for me. Before all this started I would pay $184 a month for good health insurance coverage for my wife and our first son. Now I pay $382 [i]and[/i] my work pays over $1200 per month too. It's about $20,000 a year for a family of three. That's insanity.
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I agree. I went from a $20 copay to a 3k deductible and I pay more per month for insurance. It's just stupid
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I feel ya man. My families insurance before obamacare was 330 for catastrophic with a 6k deductible (mom had breast cancer, i have a terrible back). After obamacare its gone up every year as other companies in the state have folded or left. Right now its 1280 a month for the exact same coverage. Thats a 387% increase. And a similar plan somewhere else is just the same in price. So yeah not sure how the "affordable" healthcare plan made it affordable for me and my family with preexisting conditions. Maybe if we were on welfare it would "work". Lol and people still venomously defend it as most Americans on average have had their prices triple pretty much everywhere...
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Edited by SlappyTheElf: 9/25/2017 9:49:24 PMObamacare or ACA seems like a halfassed hash, universal healthcare in the uk means you pay a little more tax (there is no such thing as free healthcare) but you get properly looked after regardless, and it never changes price for you if you have had cancer thats likely to return or you have crohns or HIV or anything really. And if you don't like it you can always go private.
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[quote]Free market health care or capitalism or whatever we had before was way better, at least for me.[/quote]Sounds like someone who doesn't have a pre-existing condition, or never found themselves diagnosed with an illness or sudden injury.. [quote]It's about $20,000 a year for a family of three[/quote]You realize that has nothing to do with the ACA and everything to do with companies raising prices, right? The ACA doesn't dictate prices.
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>affordable care act >doesn't dictate prices So what does it do then, besides -blam!- people over?
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[quote][quote]Free market health care or capitalism or whatever we had before was way better, at least for me.[/quote]Sounds like someone who doesn't have a pre-existing condition, or never found themselves diagnosed with an illness or sudden injury.. [quote]It's about $20,000 a year for a family of three[/quote]You realize that has nothing to do with the ACA and everything to do with companies raising prices, right? The ACA doesn't dictate prices.[/quote] ACA forced insurance companies to offer coverage to everyone. This increased the company's risk so they had to raise the rates because the chances they would be paying for people's medical treatment went up as well. I actually do have pre-existing conditions and I payed for them when I could out of pocket and just suffered with it as most of us do, when I had to. I would like to see less generalizations and assumptions and for you to think about the cause and effect nature of things. When we stand so close and grasp so tightly to one set of political beliefs, it is easy to be swept up in the notion that one side is always right and one side is always wrong. It's much more a case of grey rather than black and white.
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Heh someone knows his shit lmao
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Hey look you did that thing. Whenever someone makes him look wrong he just doesn't reply anymore.
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Edited by Liam_the_Censor: 9/22/2017 7:04:46 PM*cough* because the ACA costs so much *cough* Here’s a solution... QUIT PAYING FOR ROUTINE HEALTHCARE!!! If it is catastrophic sure, routine however should be paid for by the individual.
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[quote]*cough* because the ACA costs so much *cough* Here’s a solution... QUIT PAYING FOR ROUTINE HEALTHCARE!!! If it is catastrophic sure, routine however should be paid for by the individual.[/quote]Routine and preventative care is significantly cheaper than paying for catastrophic care. It's cheaper and easier to pay for mammograms to catch breast cancer early, rather than paying for cancer treatments and surgeries.
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Not really, catastrophic coverage is cheaper because it isn’t needed as much.
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[quote]Not really, catastrophic coverage is cheaper because it isn’t needed as much.[/quote]I'm talking about the cost of care, not the cost of insurance.
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Edited by Liam_the_Censor: 9/22/2017 7:04:18 PMExactly. The government screws up pretty much everything. If it absolutely has to provide anything it should only be catastrophic healthcare. Routine should be paid for by the individual.
