100000% agree. "Make pvp seperate". So they want a game that doesn't play the same, different abilities, same weapons? Sounds like they want to play a different game. Also to note, this is (thankfully) not Halo. We're coming up on year 4, that horse is dead, quit beating it. "Just balance it". That translates back into having fewer more boring weapons and getting rid of supers. He'll, grenades don't even one hit in the new game. How pathetic of a gamer do you have to be to bitch about -blam!-ing grenades? Seriously, do you wear a helmet everywhere you go? Most nerfs to the strongest, rarest weapons were caused by pvp players whining. I'd love to see another primary weapon that was hard to get that one or two shot in pvp. "Pvp kept the game alive". Factually untrue. All it did was garner popularity and money from streamers. Destiny tracker has constantly shown more pve players daily, even during content droughts.