TL:DR: players are not devs, we cant go into the games coding too make balance better or worse. The state of Destiny is not your fault. Now the devs with degrees working at bungie on the other hand..... I was on reddit and...[url=https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/6dlc8e/as_a_community_we_have_destroyed_this_game/]Just read[/url] (link lost....damn it) Now Idk about you guys but I dont know anything about developing a game nor do I have a degree with other game's I've worked on , on my résumé. I'm not at a company where the balancing was an issue for 2+years. I have no direct way of communicating to the devs a bungie nor do I think coz or deej even read my post. So how the -blam!- is it on me? LSS, It's not your (or my) fault destiny is unbalanced. It's not our fault there has been issues since the beginning destiny, and Its not our job to make the game better (no matter what a fan said's). I hate a nerfer more than anyone, but do I feel like they literally went in and changed the coding to make the game what it is? Hell no. Next Its going to be our fault for bungies bad decision making.....No its not. My hands are clean. Don't be that type of fan where you are blaming yourself for what the game is. All those able minded individuals at bungie with degrees for what they are doing, and its on us? Wow. No wonder bungie likes reddit. [b]Edit:[/b] I enjoy the game, but I wont go as far as to blame myself for bungies mistakes, and I for damn sure wont thank them for fixing things that should get fixed, and braking what isn't broken. I will thank them for.... the attempt to make the game better, but let's be real. We know they are capable of more than what they've been doing. [b]Edit:[/b] I get that there are streamers, nerfer, and Youtubers that complained a lot, but still how many years has bungie been in business? They should be capable of finding better selections with their eyes closed (unless there has been a huge staff change in which case..uh oh). In Destiny 2 if you are going to ask for feedback and "listen", maybe have polls where you are asking players about balance and changes? How does this scout feel? Does it feel Op? How do you feel about the warlocks sword tracking? Compare the polls too your data. If it looks good, leave it, and if not ask people to comment in a linked post. We can ask, but only you have the power to actually do anything to make the game better. You've tried in some areas of destiny (thanks for that), but in other areas where It counts you completely missed the mark, air ball, no touchdown. That is why some players are skeptical about Destiny 2, and they ones who aren't....Idk what too call you anymore.