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5/27/2017 9:28:58 PM
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The point of this post is as follows.
Abortion is legal for any unborn child. Rarity aside.
Killing a pregnant mother counts as two counts of murder.
According to the law, it is possible to abuse fetuses.
This is a double standard.
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Only because you're failing to consider the relationship of the WOMAN to the pregnancy...and are simply treating her as if the only thing that matters is the fetus.... ..and she's nothing but an ambulatory INCUBATOR. When killing a pregnant woman, the STATE considers that the life was taken unlawfully and without the consent of the woman. An abortion is when that life is terminated WITH the consent of the woman. The legal basis for trying to expand child abuse laws into the uterus are sketchy at best, and are seldom attempted in states outside of Red State America. Usually as part of a cultural and political agenda to create a legal precident for fetal rights that exist apart from the woman.
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You act like the mother's consent is all it takes for it to be ok to kill the child
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1. The only right there is any moral consensus on are the woman's 2. Not everyone consider a fetus to be the moral and legal equivalent of an infant. 3. Once you invoke the law and the power of the State you are imposing your beliefs on some one else by force. And now we might as well be living in Iran or any other religious dictatorship. Where everyone has to ascribe to one religions worldview whether we believe in that religion or not. ...and everyone's right suddenly are up for grabs, and exist only at the whim of who controls government.
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I don't consider those with an IQ under 70 to be morally human, but you dont see me saying that not being allowed to kill them is equivalent to a theocratic dictatorship
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Edited by kellygreen45: 5/31/2017 2:04:29 AMBuy you live in a society where ther is a moral consensus that they are. There is no moral consensus that fetuses are infants. So you have no right use the power of the State to impose your moral code on others. That whole First Amendment and religious freedom thing. You simply want everyone to have to live by your personal notions of right and wrong. Which is not how free societies work.
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[quote] There is no moral consensus that fetus are infants. So you have no right use the power of the State to impose your moral code on others. [/quote] Almost half of the country would disagree. Also, it is pretty rich hearing a liberal go on about someone imposing their moral code to others. What are your thoughts on forcing people to bake gay cakes? Or what about a restaraunt that didn't like blacks so they refused to serve them? That's stopped by the government enforcing a moral code upon citizens. We might as well be a dictatorship, right? /s You seem to think morality is dictated by the majority consensus. Which depending on your views on philosophy, it could be. But if the majority of Japanese during WW2 thought it was ok to torture and -blam!- prisoners, does that make it morally right for them to torture and -blam!-? Just because the small majority of Americans believe abortion is ok doesn't make it morally right. It is still morally wrong and those who do it should be shamed by their peers. You're literally ending a human life because you were and still are too irresponsible. Period. I will note, though, that abortions are not entirely morally wrong under certain circumstances. Danger to the mother would be one. A deformed/retarded fetus would be another. Dont try and use this argument against me in favor of abortion.
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Edited by TheChemist: 5/31/2017 12:24:31 AMBut without the consent of the fetus... A mother cannot kill their child. That's dumb. I know you will disagree, but as a Christian I think the decision of who will live should be left to God. Man shouldn't play god.
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God doesn't give a shit about who lives and dies. Good, wholesome people are killed everyday through no fault of their own. If God cared, he wouldn't let good people be killed at the hands of others.
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The laws vary on murdering a pregnant woman. It isn't always considered a double murder.
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[quote]The point of this post is as follows. Abortion is legal for any unborn child. Rarity aside. Killing a pregnant mother counts as two counts of murder. According to the law, it is possible to abuse fetuses. This is a double standard.[/quote]
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[quote]The point of this post is as follows. Abortion is legal for any unborn child. Rarity aside. Killing a pregnant mother counts as two counts of murder. According to the law, it is possible to abuse fetuses. This is a double standard.[/quote] Absolutely
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[quote]The point of this post is as follows. Abortion is legal for any unborn child. Rarity aside. Killing a pregnant mother counts as two counts of murder. According to the law, it is possible to abuse fetuses. This is a double standard.[/quote] Apparently some people can't figure that out
