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Edited by JzstNo: 5/7/2017 11:17:58 AM
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Petition to change Trials of Osiris in Destiny 2

As everyone is well aware trials has been a major influence in nerfs and buffs. I think the majority of the playerbase doesn't like trials or play it anymore. It was fun when it first came out and the games you get matched with are random people. Now it's complete trash and brings out the worst in people. I think we can all agree that trials has had a negative impact on the game. So I say for destiny 2 we remove it and replace it with some other competitive pvp. Edit - wow so many replies and likes. Thanks Im not saying remove competitive pvp, I love watching sweats and high intensity games on YouTube and twitch, what I'm saying is elimination as a game mode brings out the worst in people and what's fun in being shouted at by team mates for making the wrong play in a important situation in a game of trials. I would like to see a trials game mode of skirmish or zone control, something competitive but not elimination. The top pvp players obviously like trials but that's a small percentage of the player base and the nerfs that affect PVE because of trials are ruining the game. Look at special ammo for example Edit 2 cosmo replied. I'm done Edit 3 to all the people saying trials should stay. I agree, the concept of trials of osiris should stay and it's good to have a competitive game mode that makes people want to try their best. What Im saying is the state that trials is in has caused a lot of messed up stuff in pve. 1) skorri nerf - in a raid we now have to wait double the time to get our supers before a boss 2) special ammo is all messed up 3) constant nerfs of weapons The post was made with a view to change the way trials of osiris is like have either a skirmish, zone control, salvage or capture the flag sort of game where it's not just who can throw their sticky first and then jump the hell out of there. It's icebreaker/wormwood city at the moment. Trials was good in HOW and I went to the Lighthouse 3x a week most weeks but now it has definitely declined and seems like a lot of people are not enjoying it as it is right now. QUOTE [quote]Even though I used to love trials and have gone flawless almost 50 times, I can't help but agree that's it's had only detrimental effects on the game. The nerfs attempted to 'balance' trials have seriously harmed pvp and pve. At no point ever were snipers a problem in pvp. Yet they received dozens of nerfs to bring them down for trials. This destroyed them in pvp and seriously harmed them in pve. It lead to the shotgun dominance we saw at the beginning of year 3. Which then lead to the nerf that completely destroyed their competitive viability I pve, pvp and trials. The skorris nerf clearly aimed at trials hurt pve in the worst way. The Templar challenge mode is made drastically easier when you launch the encounter with full supers. The skorris nerf doubled the amount of time we had to wait for the Titan to get their bubble back. Either trials need to be removed. Or all game modes need to be balanced separately.[/quote]
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  • Damn how did you charge supers before skorris... also uh the special ammo nerf was primarily for 6v6 because that's where shotguns reigned the most believe it or not, same with the side arm nerf. So trials resulted in the nerf of uh... skorris. That's it.

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    • Unless they plan on separating nerfs, trials needs to go. It's only caused negative changes.

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    • They can keep it in if they completely separate pve from pvp balance. I don't have high hopes for balanced pvp in Destiny 2 everything will be nerfed into the ground eventually

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    • lol so many streamers/paid carrriers are crying cause now they gotta get a real job.

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      • There was another post asking a similar question in that pve and pvp should be 100% and completely separate in every single way. It had over 1300 upvotes. Not a peep from bungie. Cozmo, I'm glad you posted here but this has been THE biggest issue in destiny and the devs didn't learn. I fact they went even harder w the nerfs. Even the "fanboy" types really aren't arguing over the fact that they need separation in the sequel. The vast majority is wanting it, will bungie deliver? Will they learn? Let's hope so.

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      • 30 more net upvotes until I can tell haunter to eat shit. I'll be waiting to see 400 next to this post.

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          • Edited by Random_I_Am: 5/7/2017 8:21:15 AM
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          • I like the idea behind Trials, but at the same time balancing has become a disaster in this game. In the beginning, nerfs were things I could get behind. I didn't play pvp or raids but I'd read about this gun called Vex Mythoclast and the noob version of me thought "yeah, that nerf makes sense." I rarely think that anymore. It's become less about balance and fun, and more about making competitive play, such as Trials, more generic in the interest of fairness. It's the wrong approach. I want fun and interesting exotics, raid equipment and abilities. I don't just want some boring gun, and I fear that's what we'll have if we continue in this way.

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          • please remove trials should be a competition outside the original game. please remove trials the paid carries etc ruined the game

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          • Bump for the win. Trials is a joke. Trials is the catalyst for all nerfs. Trials is full of the scrubbiest cheaters and fake flawless wannabes. Full overhaul or just drop that crap altogether.

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            • To all those "Don't play it!"-guys: You don't get the point. Trials has a negative impact on the whole game like no other gamemode has. Small example: JUST BECAUSE of Trials/Elimination Skorri was nerfed. It wasn't a problem in other 3v3s, 6v6s and PvE at all. So as long as Trials whiners are the reason for weapon/ability/item nerfs in normal PvP and PvE...normal PvP and PvE players have the right to complain about Trials even though they don't even play it.

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              • This is something I can get behind. It's clear as day that trials played a huge role in this games destruction because of constant cries for nerfs.

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                • Even though I used to love trials and have gone flawless almost 50 times, I can't help but agree that's it's had only detrimental effects on the game. The nerfs attempted to 'balance' trials have seriously harmed pvp and pve. At no point ever were snipers a problem in pvp. Yet they received dozens of nerfs to bring them down for trials. This destroyed them in pvp and seriously harmed them in pve. It lead to the shotgun dominance we saw at the beginning of year 3. Which then lead to the nerf that completely destroyed their competitive viability I pve, pvp and trials. The skorris nerf clearly aimed at trials hurt pve in the worst way. The Templar challenge mode is made drastically easier when you launch the encounter with full supers. The skorris nerf doubled the amount of time we had to wait for the Titan to get their bubble back. Either trials need to be removed. Or all game modes need to be balanced separately.

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                  • bad players want the mode that they can't play removed. what a surprise.

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                    • Don't forget that sunsinger was gutted because it created "frustrating encounters" in trials.

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                      • Orrrrrr, a man can hope that people will realize that nerfing just leads to more nerfing. But hey, we have 3 years to ruin what should be a decentish game right?

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                      • Edited by Soupreem: 5/7/2017 7:00:42 PM
                        Signed. If my weapon gets nerfed into Oblivion it should be because of a game mode relavent to me.

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                          I love pvp and i can say that trials is shit so I wouldn't even mind

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                        • I had an idea for a rework of Trials a few months back, but it got buried. Summary of what it said: Change Trials from Elimination to a modified version of control. A similar version to Overwatch's Zone game mode. Remove trials passages and replace them with challenges that are challenging. Get 100 grenade kills, 100 super kills, etc. Things that would still take time to do. You go to the Lighthouse after completing every challenge. 5 total challenges that vary each time Adept weapons are rewarded to the winning team and normal weapons to the losers. Drop rates are 15% for each team. If you don't receive a weapon/armor piece, your chances will increase by 5% each game. Trials is 2 weeks long and happens every 2 months

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                        • Trials now is like dodgeball, only the balls have 25 feet of magnetism

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