There are some great, funny, well behaved kids online so I am not painting with a broad brush. But regarding your post about the intolerable kids on Destiny: 1. I do not get online after an 8 hour work day, or maybe mowing the yard, whatever real life stuff I'm brushing off for a few hours just to baby sit or teach somebody's kids how to behave because his/her parents don't know how 2. Anyone under 14 shouldn't be playing online games unsupervised period. You want to play online juvenile delinquent tamer, teach the Destiny daycare demographic manners, ok fine take that on but the other 4 adults in your party have to be on the same page, because if even just one of them says something negative your whole plan doesn't work. 3. The brand of kids we are talking about do not care what online stranger adults are telling them 97% of the time, because they are also there to escape the bully at school, or whatever they are dealing with, and they are immortal online and can't shut up. Combine this with the ego on some of these kids and it's just not worth it. 4. I can't tell you how many times I went through the trouble to put an LFG group together, took the time, let a couple kids in the group. Stipulation was everyone is in for a full run. We were nice to them of course. One boss in and kids bail, their parents are making them go to their aunts, they have to do their homework, or some other thing that is completely out of their control that totally effects your play experience. This is not me being mean, this is just me saying that I do not always have hours upon hours of play time to waste.