I want massive spaceship battles, like crucible. yyyyeeeeessssss.

Pointless to waste time on this when people barely go patrolling. After the first oh this is cool effect goes over you'll barely go there and could care it's in the game

What's the point in an open world if it's an empty world ??

Imagine looking at a 3D overview of a planet. On this model, there are a few points designated as "safe" landing zones. There are only a few of these at first, maybe even just one for your first visit with more becoming available as you proceed through missions. You'll also be able to set up beacons as you explore to designate new landing zones for yourself and your friends, but these may not be "safe" and could land you in the middle of a firefight if not right into an ambush by reinforced enemies that discover the beacon's location. When you first land, you have a blank map with some topography and a few mission critical locations marked for reference. Normally, you can approach these in any order you wish unless an order is critical to your current story missions. These are vast distances from one another, and are far from the only significant locations in any explorable section of a planet. These other locations are not unlocked by proximity, but must be activity marked by players on their personal maps as they discover them. This leaves them to decide which areas are really important and prevents map clutter. As you travel, you'll run across other players. These players are able to interact with you by proximity chat and by sharing the locations they feel are important on their personal maps while giving hints about places you should explore or avoid. As you traverse the surface, you'll come across entrances to cave systems, buried cities and buildings that can have you enter at the top floors for you work your way down, fully explorable ghost towns, crashed capital ships and long abandoned battlefields, enemy staging and supply areas, friendly supply, recon, and observation posts, and constantly changing areas of enemy patrols and concentrations. This is the premise that I'd like to see in destiny 2. If we're truely fighting to take back ground that we lost so long ago, then our first steps will be into the unknown and we won't have a foothold until we establish one.

D2 will be CoD aka Call of Destiny. 75% Crucible, 15% stupid Patrol, 10% "story" and 5% raid. I will pass on that one. VoG was great and I will play the shit out of AoT, but then it's over.

Honestly, i don't wish for only a "little" more open world, but for a [b]true [/b]open world! as advertised before the game was even released...to me, if D2 is not, there's no chance that i'll buy...just mho

I think the leaked image said it's open world. So do with that what you will.

I would love to see them focus on PVE in D2 as hard as they focused on PVP in Destiny!

If you want true open world games come to PC. Consoles can't handle amazing open world games at over 60fps 1080p. The new ones might but not those the majority of people have. Destiny true open world would be amazing but consoles are holding back to what a remarkable game destiny could be with its lore and possibilities. Remember when current gen players claimed old gen where holding destiny back?? Yea same goes for PC we claim consoles are holding back games like destiny from becoming its true potential.

Honestly i would love a more open world destiny with the strikes being like these giant dungeon doors (kinda like that one mars mission that has a circular teleporter and teleports you to the black garden but instead of teleporting maybe have a path or have us hunt down people like in the patrols now and by killing them we get sets of keys that allow us to open the doors and hunt the captain down... i dunno

I agree with everything you said. If you do patrol on earth and most other planets, if you look into he distance it's actually other playable areas. The only gripe I have is that patrols are on a linear path. I just don't see them making each patrol area open would like fall out for instance, it would cost way too much to make multiple maps like that. The linear path on patrols is here to stay unless they incorporate a random map generator each time you land on a planet. In the end I don't see that happening either. Games like no man sky and war frame are cool because they have that aspect but they are the same worlds with random changes. That's appealing but if that's what I wanted, I'd be playing war frame all the time. I think they could do one huge open world but then again it would be on planet to go and each dlc would probably be another planet. I just can't wait to see what they expand on from his game, like you I hope they stick to the core of what they have.

Is destiny dead?