People who can't cut it in bf1, Titanfall 2, cod, Halo, overwatch, etc. play Destiny pvp lol. It's unbalanced, sbmm-skill variance widening, meta-hoarding, panic-crutch-supering, god-roll-spamming, gameplay makes people perform a lot better than they would in real, balanced pvp games.

Probably you are saying this because you are not that good in pvp in this game.

I'm pretty much average actually, just like you. Your stats are barely better than mine. Check my male hunter (pretty much the only toon I've used for pvp). But honestly stats are irrelevant to this argument. Even if I was a crucible god I'd be saying the same thing. Destiny pvp is a broken, unbalanced mess, you don't have to be an elite mlg pro player to see that. People like you who say "you complain because you're bad" instead of actually addressing the very real issues that destiny pvp has are the problem in this community. I know it's the best reply that people like you can come up with when you have no real, valid counterargument, but it makes you look silly lol Play me in a pvp that is balanced without God roll weapons, op metas, crutch supers, and gear perks and I bet I'd give you a run for your money.

Destiny pvp is not balanced, but it's the same for everyone. I didn't even check your stats. The primaries and subclasses aren't balanced. Even the special ammo economy can be cheesed. There are a lot of problems. But there are a lot of problems in other games also And i bet you are the one who can't play without abilities.

[quote]Destiny pvp is not balanced, but it's the same for everyone.[/quote] What? Lol I'm not even going to respond to that oxymoronic nonsense. As for the "can't play without abilities" part I pretty much have always run primaries and shotguns. Being a gunslinger hunter there aren't many abilities worth using except throwing knife lol. Im used to playing pvp games without abilities, destiny is the first I've played with so many crutch abilities and perks that take away the need for actual gunskill. Which is why I think so many people play it, despite it being unbalanced. I'm sure I'd be just fine if destiny didn't have them. I'd probably enjoy crucible more too if I wasn't getting warlock meleed from 10 feet away, or fist of panicked everytime I got the jump on some daydreaming titan lol Lol you didn't look at my stats? Sure bud. As I said before, play me in a balanced pvp without all these bullshit abilities and supers and I'd bet I could take you. I'm no God, but I can hold my own on a level playing field. If you're on xbone, we can cut all this pointless bickering and settle this like men anytime.

Haha you saying that you would beat me lol.

Lots of people take this games pvp serious for some reason. Console pvp together is a joke expect cod I guess since its had such a big esport audience. I play destiny only when pve content is out but as soon as that is done I go back to pvp games like overwatch. I would take h1z1 pvp more serious then destiny pvp anyday.