The problem is not that all people are running around with Sidearms.
The problem is that after over two years of rebalancing this game, we finally have reached a state where Sidearms are the best gun it he game.
This is the sole reason why people run them.
The game is so broken now, that sidearms outgun everything.
Oh, and the joke Sniper NLB is now the best one.
Or to put it differently, which two weapons have never been touched by any rebalancing... anybody else saying Last Man Standing?
Update:
Some people argue it's because of ammo. This only explains why people use Sidearms and not some other special.
My point is: why use sidearms if primaries (Handcannons, Pulses) are better? Because in the 20m range no Primary outguns a Sidearm.
Update 2:
This is not a nerf posting. I just want to show that if you cut everything down, dwarfs become suddenly giants.
Update 3:
http://guardian.gg/en/weapon-stats?platform=2&start=2017-02-17&end=2017-02-20&mode=14&activity=0
This week in Trials: 30% of all kills Sidearms, 23% of all kills Snipers - Welcome to the Primary Meta
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April update gonna Nerf sidearms and rebalance special ammo. Bungie hates buffing. It just nerfs things so things they didn't Nerf become used. Then they Nerf that because it's overused. It just goes round and round.
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The only game mode that this seriously affects is trials. In the other game modes you have lots of opportunity to get special during the game. It IS completely down to the special situation (which I dont mind in general) sidearms are not op at all. Sidearm users are just annoying. They were annoying before the patch and even more so now, but if you cant deal with them then thats down to you.
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What everyone misses is how these changes hurt pve. If there is any additional pve content may god have mercy on dj's soul. Pvp can never truly be broken... We all play by the same rules. It can be no fun. It can be hated due to the meta. Pve can and is now broken. But no one cares. For now...
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I used sidearms with pride back at the beginning and end of the last meta to combat shotgunners and I thought I was better then them, now I can't use a sidearm. I feel like garbage when I do, and I don't feel like a good player when I do. I used to enjoy using them and when I do good with them but now it's like... I'm just like rest of the crucible.
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man .. destiny still fun , but the weapons have made this a smelly shit show
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Lol uni is where it's at (at least for me)
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The satisfaction you get when you outgun TLW with Wormwood, coz Wormwood has more range😂😂
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I'm hungry lol. Anyone want food?
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Edited by PotatoNet: 2/19/2017 6:59:28 PMI remember me during Year 1 and 2. I honestly never would have thought sidearms would be used more than other specials. I never would have thought people would complain about NLB and Universal Remote. You all must really suck at PvP it you start complaining about Uni and NLB. This is the saddest state I've seen Destiny in. The only thing you ever do is complain. You complain because you can't learn how to counter a simple gun. A simple archetype. It's really sad to see how you're all so selfish and lazy. You are the reason the game is like this, in this state. You're pathetic. I'm talking about the community in general, not the OP. He seems to share the same ideology
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Dude, i can take your post and replace sidearms with Snipers (when that issue came), then shoulder charge, then jugg, then Shotguns, then now sidearms. That is scary- it shows a downhill trend. (I was really only here for those major nerfs, i totally missed the hunter and warlock nerfs) but I'm sure we've reached this point many times- it only gets worse from here- especially with all the fan boys managing to defend destiny still.
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Very well put, i agree 110%
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[quote]The problem is not that all people are running around with Sidearms. The problem is that after over two years of rebalancing this game, we finally have reached a state where Sidearms are the best gun it he game. This is the sole reason why people run them. The game is so broken now, that sidearms outgun everything. Oh, and the joke Sniper NLB is now the best one. Or to put it differently, which two weapons have never been touched by any rebalancing... anybody else saying Last Man Standing? Update: Some people argue it's because of ammo. This only explains why people use Sidearms and not some other special. My point is: why use sidearms if primaries (Handcannons, Pulses) are better? Because in the 20m range no Primary outguns a Sidearm. Update 2: This is not a nerf posting. I just want to show that if you cut everything down, dwarfs become suddenly giants. Update 3: http://guardian.gg/en/weapon-stats?platform=2&start=2017-02-17&end=2017-02-20&mode=14&activity=0 This week in Trials: 30% of all kills Sidearms, 23% of all kills Snipers - Welcome to the Primary Meta[/quote] Well said I agree.
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Nah man, I'm just missing my bullets. Thanks green bar lag warriors! Or is it red? I'm not sure about anything anymore because I'm colorblind and everyone seems to lag.
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Says the guy who has more shotgun kills than every primary class. You were part of the problem during the shotgun meta and now your crying?
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You cannot take stats from one single map on the first trials of the new patch and proclaim that's how it's going to be all the time. Different maps require different load-outs, and considering the patch just happened people are still uncomfortable... They haven't tried everything out yet and probably are just using what everyone else is using because that's how it works.
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R. I. P. fun. Welcome to nerf life.
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I don't understand why any of us play destiny at this point.
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People are using side arms because you spawn with ammo. Simple as that. If other specials still spawned with ammo you would see the same amount of side arms as you did before this hotfix.
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I know theres a glitch to go back to year 2 vendor weapons, I tried doing it yesterday, I have the vanilla destiny disc and I'm on xbox one but every time I uninstalled rise of iron my game acted as if i still have it installed, any solutions?
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Ok now pull up every previous week. How much percentage were shotty kills? Not just in trials but also in every other crucible game mode. I play Rumble 90% of the time and its ALWAYS, me vs 5 shotty warriors.
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Worse than sidearms and shotties. At least the previous meta didnt have matches where 3 or 4 people were shooting at you with no land beyond. This meta is a bunch of bullshit
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It's not that sidearms are outclassing other specials right now, they are simply the only option if you'd rather just play and not worry about gathering ammo the whole match. There was so much more variety before patch. We are playing bungies way now
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Ehm... Sidearms were actually quite good before as well, people just use only the meta and didn't notice...
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Agree! Soon we'll be able to collect stones from the maps and through at each other. Most effective and limitless ammo. So sad...
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. You know, until the gods poke that dude's eye out too so everyone can stumble around and not get anything done.
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