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2/17/2017 5:27:06 PM
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Shotguns

I believe the shotguns were nerfed a bit too much. I don't know any other gun with a series of 4 nerfs. The accuracy loss is unrealistic in a game that requires double jumping and lateral movements. This is not call of duty. Most fights are off the ground or require elevation and it feels unnatural to use this weapon type now with these extreme changes.

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  • Shotguns should be close combat only. Its how a real shotgun works. But, you should not be able to rush in while somebody unloads a whole clip into you, and still walk away. Shottys should have been, and actually should be again, nerfed. I do like the new changes, though what I am seeing now, is either I do really well, or completely and utterly horrible. Went from a 4.5 K/D game, to the next being a .13. Yeah, it is that bad. I have a feeling that sbmm is hardly in the game now. Either I come up against some at my level, or those that just plain out class me. But, I have only been killed by shot guns maybe 3 times since the change. Before that, it was just about every time. I really do wish there was a playlist that was strictly sbmm, or with those just above your level. I think I would be much more balanced in my K/D.

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    • [quote]I believe the shotguns were nerfed a bit too much. I don't know any other gun with a series of 4 nerfs. [/quote] *Cough* Fusion Rifles *Cough*

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    • I've actually played call of duty for the first time ever just recently... The pvp in call of duty blops3 frankly just feels better Sure, depending on the weapon the first person who fires will probably win the engagement but that's... Kinda how the thing works.. Destiny? I don't know........ I get pissed when I lose an engagement but I get more pissed when I lose the engagement and feel like I lost because of the broke ass physics of this game... Err.. Sorry... "Features"... Like sprint cooldowns and cornering on a ballpark instead of a dime. I swear you take corners while sprinting in destiny like a -blam!-ing 18 wheeler.

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      • Totally agree, not to mention, the idiotic need to hang out at the special ammo bin instead of getting busy in the game!

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        • Shotguns have been nerfed 9 or 10 times Kids will never be satisfied

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          • Maybe it's the auto aim you miss? Shotgunning warriors needed to be stopped. 3 years in a row. Snipers saw 1 meta. That was 100 Yard Stare. Ice breaker saw 4 nerfs. It hasn't been buffed 1 time. If you wanna complain about shotguns go play Battlefield.

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          • Shotgun a CLOSE RANGE wepons meaning you should not be able to double jump a mile away and still get a kill...Hello!!!! I have always used a deidris retort I got from iron banner and even after patch I still get the same amount of kills and maybe a few more because I am now not out ranged by a OP Matador. ... if I get out ranged it should be because he has better roll then I do... play the game get a better roll stop crying and have fun.

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            • Nope, they deserved it. Their still usable too.

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            • "Most fights are off the ground or require elevation "? Really? I have a tip for you Try a PRIMARY Have a nice day buddy.

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              • I have to agree, with the nerfs to shotguns + the special ammo changes i feel they went to far with shotguns. I would give them there in air accuracy back.

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                • It probably was a bit much but to be honest I don't care. I was so sick of cement head, mouth breathing shotgun apes.

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                  • You're right. The latest nerfs were unnecessary. Losing ammo on death is enough to deter shotgun apes.

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                    • I used a shotgun in the second half of a game after this patch once. I actually almost came back in a game of Skirmish even though I was down over 1000 points. I believe I got around 5 shotgun kills too. They're fine where they're at in my opinion.

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                    • A shotgun fires spread pellets, it's very realistic to get a wide spread of hitpoints. Sometimes the pellets miss. It's a risk reward system. That's the point of a shotgun. I personally am enjoying the lack of shotguns in the meta, coming from a shotgun user myself. The game is not all played in the air, it's just how the mlg crowd chooses to play. The shotgun nerf is very realistic. They are still useable, and their usability is much more in line with what a shotgun actually does

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                      • I played last night. Shotguns felt fine,still saw a few people able to down 3 or 4 guys with ease. People are just more cautious with them now.No more charging in blindly with no fear.now that the shotgun ammo is precious they choose their battles more carefully

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                      • Nerf Shotpackage Removed Shotpackage Nerf Rangefinder from +20% to +5% Nerf precision dmg to 10% Increase ready stow time Added more recoil to the stability Increase reload time (slower) Slower ADS Decrease movement speed when holding weapon Added 2 frame when using weapon after sprint (blink?) And few other pve changes I might miss some other nerf but the point is shotgun was nerfed more than 4 times as I can remember.

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                        • I believe you must be high. Oh wait, an bum rushing ape with most kills coming from shotguns. Now I know why you feel the nerf was "too much" lol

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                        • I feel if the special ammo debacle was changed and players actually could use shotguns more that there would be more info as to if these changes were indeed good or bad. The way things are now I won't be using one anytime soon.

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                          • See the forest for the trees. This patch was about about reducing the spectrum of engagement range and greatly reducing the number of one hit kills. Period. The extreme ends of range spectrum have had its legs chopped off for most players, effectively shortening the playing field to a more forgiving middle ground where mistakes can be survived more frequently. All of the weaker players touting the patch and their so-called new found abilities are giving themselves far too much credit. They didn't wake up better players. You were assisted via manufacturing.....again. Right now the standing line for this assisted living is long, but it won't last. Never does.

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                          • 4? You haven't been around that long. Have you?

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                            • I still have success with them but, you're right. The removal of crit and in air accuracy is nonsense. The in air accuracy nerf is just there to help the low skilled players. Without that crit chance you almost always need a melee attack to follow it up.

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                              • The ammo change and the removal of critical damage on shotguns was needed. Everything else was in the right place, but overdone. I'm sorry, but if you want shotguns to go back to before then your an effing moron. At least now there is some ACTUAL diversity in special weapons

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                                • Absolute awesome universal remote and sidearm gameplay by shockArrow222 after the patch: [url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ncYMqop3g7g]Defender on Asylum[/url]

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                                • It was a bit extreme. This is why you have to be careful what you complain about to Bungie. They tend to overreact and go overkill on things. That is why I never ask for nerfs.

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                                  Legend, naljubuites(watch in awe!) - old

                                  I knew it was not just me i leveled my invective up on ps4 it helped but that shit is sad

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                                • Edited by Black_Widow503: 2/18/2017 3:55:21 AM
                                  There is a really good post about this on Reddit! The vid: [url]https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2HgphzJzM70[/url] The post: [url]https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/5ump41/shotguns_are_no_longer_competitive_aerial/[/url] Edit: not my post or vid

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