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2/16/2017 1:32:14 AM
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(Opinion) I feel that the community is currently overreacting

Note: Every reaction toward this patch is within reason and accepted. I am merely stating my opinion, right or wrong, on the current state of the game and community. It has only been a little over one day. I can understand where a lot of criticism from the community comes from. We as gamers (and as teens/adults in general) can be very negative toward change. We can especially be negative toward change when complications break various aspects of the game, like the current hungering blade break. Everyone has the right to provide criticism over an aspect of this hotfix that was [b]never[/b] meant to happen (yes, I am looking at you guardians wearing your Spinmetal hats in the corner). Regarding the rest of the patch, I feel that players have not fully embraced the current state of the game. It's understandable that players examined the changes on paper and immediately pointed out aspects they did not agree with, but players need to experience the change for themselves. As soon as this hotfix launched, a portion of the community [i]vehemently[/i] opposed and rejected the patch. Players have every right to like/dislike changes made to the current sandbox, but again, it has only been a day. Dogfooding (yes, that is a term to Google) a product or service is extensive. Bungie has done it, and they have allowed us to be a part of a continuous process to make the game better. In the case of Destiny, we have the opportunity to make our voices heard through qualitative data (i.e. forum posts, discussions, videos etc.) and quantitative data (i.e. playing the game and showing Bungie the numbers). There's a lot to discover with the current state of the game and new options to play with So, have you liked/disliked what has been provided in the patch notes? Good, have you tested these changes? How much have you tested these changes? How are shotguns performing in PvP? Are they packing a better punch in PvE? Is your handcannon's steady aim granting you more kills? Does the new range application turn one of your normal 3-shot kills into a 4-shot kill? Does Truth's rockets still effectively kill their intended target (Hint: Even with an round/ammo loss, it still makes things explode)? Are the Truth changes negatively impacting its PvE experience (Hint: Another yes for many)? Etc. You've tested everything changed by the patch? Good! Now, [i]have you tested everything [b]untouched[/b] by the patch to examine weapons rising or falling in the current snadbox[/i]? What weapons are making a power creep? Is your old Hawksaw feeling more reliable than a Grasp of Malok, Clever Dragon or Waltz? How are your sidearms doing? Then, have you tested weapons that fall in between? Your scout rifle may not have been directly affected, but one of its perks happens to be High-Caliber Rounds, or it could potentially roll with it. Might as well see how it handles. A lot of my examples focus on gunplay because of the current break in changing hungering blade. I feel for you bladedancers...and subsequently every class/weapons with healing capabilities. My point is that players have not fully experienced what there is to offer. Yes, you can rack up tons of hours with this new patch and dislike the majority it has to offer. You can voice your experiences/opinions, but it honestly cannot be done in a day. Ultimately, players provide Bungie with an "on the surface" look of the game by voicing their opinions, and they provide Bungie with what's going on within the game with raw data. Change may take time, but it has to be seen to be implemented. Moreover, if players are quick to condemn every single aspect of a new patch without fully examining it, then they'll potentially miss out on something that they might have enjoyed, approved, or thought was good but needed tweaking. That's my two-cents. /wall

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  • While I haven't tested [i]everything[/i] I have experienced first-hand the frustration of running a Voidwalker that can't use the regeneration abilities. I'm use to it since VW was broken for a long time, but what is really strange is that Embrace the Void gives you very, very little grenade energy. Wtf!

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  • Hate the patch top to bottom. Am i quitting? No but seriously reducing play time. Ive seen nothing positive in my play time so far.

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    • -blam!- a sidearm. I don't want to use a special that feels like a primary. Its pointless and not fun. This is a game. Isn't it supposed to be fun?

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    • This reaction is cumulative. They have built this over a long period of time. Lies treating players like dirt for way too long has left it this way. They get no slack now. NONE. They earned every bit of it. Quick question your characters, weapons abilities etc. Since house of wolves till today. Ready? Stronger or weaker than that time in the game? This game does not progress it regresses and that is a problem.

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    • I thought I would hate the special ammo change, but I'm loving it. It makes special ammo feel special. The only thing I'd change is the ability to just spam snipers for a while and not hit most of the time but get some easy kills (what I've been doing) and also sidearms should respawn off death the way they did before if you had no ammo (usually spawn with 20). I love being able to use primaries. Even autos are semi viable. I love my hawkmoon, and it's been doing very well. Icebreaker and no land probably need some little nerfs XD (I've been using the icebreaker and the constant stream of ammo is awesome), and no land sidearm is just totally OP. Also, why did they nerf universal remote? Mag size of 5 to a measly 3! And, the reload is worse. I thought the shotgun nerfs were enough to kill an already dead gun. With the blade dancer, I don't think hungering blade nerf was that bad. What I am angry about is the blink and QuickDraw nerf. Blink impedes the hud, and QuickDraw only helps with handling, not weapon draw speed. This also affects voidwalkers with the ophidian aspects and their blink. I am liking the patch so far, but they could have done better.

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    • Edited by DCoops: 2/16/2017 2:09:31 AM
      But my Truth is poo poo now [i]/s[/i]

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      • You're assuming that people are upset simply because they don't like change. Many people, like myself, can instantly recognize what direction the game is going in now as a result of these changes, and we don't like it. We didn't want to see the game become slower with more nerfs, we wanted a bunch of buffs that would speed up the pace of the game. That doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees with the changes are gonna rage quit: like me, many will stay and try to adapt and have fun. But aside from subjective opinions about the direction of Destiny's pvp, this patch is terribly flawed, and that deserves a lot of criticism.

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        • Just goes to show how many 12 year old Drama Queens there are in Destiny. If you cant adapt to this "Major" patch, go play Roblox.

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        • Not gonna lie, former Bungie supporter here. It's funny watching them crash and burn.

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        • Edited by Swiftlock: 2/16/2017 2:34:34 AM
          I honestly don't believe all the complaints are "overreacting". There are many legitimate issues like the mishandling of special weapon ammo or the health regen nerf. Then there's the glut of exotic equipment and subclasses that could've used minor improvements but were ignored entirely, or weapons like The First Curse which was punished too hard by the HC range nerf and didn't get any adjustments to compensate. Rather than carefully examining how their adjustments will affect *ALL* facets of Destiny's arsenal and subclass abilities, they just shoehorned in changes which inadvertently nerfed things that didn't deserve it. And that's an issue worth complaining about right away. Rather than lecturing the community on knee-jerk reactions, you should really be directing the issue at Bungie.

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        • We fully examined all the holes and bugs pretty well.

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          • Edited by NYDIBS: 2/16/2017 2:49:35 AM
            Goes the same for all the people shouting how much they love it. This happens every meta Some people can predict how the game play will turn out It's new, so a new meta hasn't come up yet, but it will and then everyone will whine about how boring it is and how something is OP It's a never ending cycle, and honestly, I'm sick of it

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          • They.are.bored.

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