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Halo Reach FAILS September 14, 2010

If a game is made for players whom are 17+, why does Reach feel like it was designed for 10 year olds with ADD? Honestly, anyone can pick up this game and do reasonably well. It seems as Bungie is catering to a much younger audience that doesn't have the attention span to learn to play a game well. From in-game randomness such as bloom, over-powered grenades, armor abilities, ect., Halo Reach is simply dumbed down. Bungie, you may as well slap an E rating on this one, because your average fifth grader who just picked up the game can compete with dedicated players. Let's take me for an example: I was able to get on the early release of the beta (Lol), but I was only able to put a reasonable amount of time into the game on Friday (1 day after the beta was released). Luckily, I searched with some extremely talented Halo 3 players whom had spent all day and night playing. Early on while searching, we matched Halo 3 professionals, Enable and Flamesword. In Halo 3, they could have absolutely handed my ass to me. In Reach however, even though they had more than double my playtime, I only went -5, and -4. Honestly, if Reach wasn't catered to 10 year olds with ADD, I would have gone double digit negative. They should have wiped the floor with me, but we tied them once, and only lost by a small margin in the second game. Halo has always been an 18+ game. Sure there are groups like Bungle trying to dumb down the game to the point that a retarded chimp could have an orgasm playing it, but default gameplay is simply too basic. With the skill gap nearly gone, I don't know where to turn. I'm sure I'll get some trolling replies along the lines of "Don't buy it, you won't be missed," but if Reach stays this dumbed down I don't know if I'll purchase it. Default gameplay shouldn't be this basic, and hopefully Bungie will at least allow MLG a way to fix this currently broken game. Bungie, we don't want a game made for the 10 year olds with ADD, this is Halo. They have CoD. I understand this is a business, but simply put, you're ruining your integrity as a gaming developer. I feel like Reach will be a game that nobody will play more than a year, simply because of how basic the gameplay is. And those people that you're catering to, they bought Halo 3. Then, when the next shiny new title came out, they bought that too. I'm sure Reach will break every sales record evar, but that doesn't make it a good game. I can't imagine what this is like for the players who have been around since CE. I played a little Halo 2, and spent way too many hours on Halo 3, but this series is getting continually dumbed down. Regardless, in the slim chance an employee stops what they are doing to read this, good luck with your future projects. Thanks for your time. Edit 1: [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=59366&player=Cosssta]Game Used as Evidence in OP[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=59979&player=Cosssta]Game 2[/url] [Edited on 06.06.2010 7:50 PM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HIGGINZOB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HIGGINZOB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa I could beat you in a 1v1 easily.[/quote] Cool bro.[/quote]What. You didn't flip out at all...lol jk I suck.[/quote] Nah, I could detect the sarcasm.[/quote]I wish I could. You won't believe how many awkward situations I get into on the internet. Just kidding of course. [Edited on 06.06.2010 11:07 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HIGGINZOB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HIGGINZOB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa I could beat you in a 1v1 easily.[/quote] Cool bro.[/quote]What. You didn't flip out at all...lol jk I suck.[/quote] Nah, I could detect the sarcasm.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HIGGINZOB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa I could beat you in a 1v1 easily.[/quote] Cool bro.[/quote]What. You didn't flip out at all...lol jk I suck.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Brane Damuj [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa I'm stating my opinon, just as everyone else is. Just because my opinion is of the minority here does not mean I am wrong. I've played over 8,000 matchmaking games. I do know a thing or too about what makes good gameplay. The beta was to sort out minor bugs and things of that nature. There will be no drastic changes in the retail game.[/quote] Just because you have experience does not mean you are right. Ultimately, Bungie has the final say. You can express your opinion all you want, but Bungie is making the game that they want to make. If it is a "casual" game as you say, then feel free to stay on Halo 3 or whatever game you feel is not casual.[/quote] I'm aware. I know. I've already decided that I'll rent Reach in hope that it has an amazing campaign, and then I'll come back to Halo 3 MP.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa I'm stating my opinon, just as everyone else is. Just because my opinion is of the minority here does not mean I am wrong. I've played over 8,000 matchmaking games. I do know a thing or too about what makes good gameplay. The beta was to sort out minor bugs and things of that nature. There will be no drastic changes in the retail game.[/quote] Just because you have experience does not mean you are right. Ultimately, Bungie has the final say. You can express your opinion all you want, but Bungie is making the game that they want to make. If it is a "casual" game as you say, then feel free to stay on Halo 3 or whatever game you feel is not casual.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Plasma3150 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa I was never being derogatory. [/quote]Uhh...yeah...about that [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa That's because there is no skill gap from 1-40. Everyone is still bad (no offense).[/quote]This is still rather rude, even with that little tidbit at the end.[/quote] It's the truth. Whether you take it as offensive or not is not my problem. If you want me to sugarcoat everything I say, please let me know.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HIGGINZOB [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 Randomness is key to a none boring game, lets take CoD its the game of camp and people wait for that one guy who gets sick of waiting, leaves to the open and everyone fires at him. CoD gets old real fast and if halo were the same all the time it to would get old.[/quote] CoD has the most randomness of them all, hence why it is a poorly made game. Here's an example: If I played you in a 1v1 to 15 kills in Halo 3, I would win. You may get a few kills on me, but the overall outcome will be in the favor of the more skilled player. Does that make sense?[/quote] CoD is pretty predicable IMO and yeah you could beat me in a 1v1 dosen't mean you could beat my friend whos a 40 because he got sick of ranked and switched to social.[/quote] I could beat him too. Not that 1v1s prove much anyway.[/quote]I could beat you in a 1v1 easily.[/quote] Cool bro.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa I was never being derogatory. [/quote]Uhh...yeah...about that [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa That's because there is no skill gap from 1-40. Everyone is still bad (no offense).[/quote]This is still rather rude, even with that little tidbit at the end.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat Wow paranoiaa is quoting me fast. I'm trying not to single him out. I don't want to sound like a dick. I just honestly got what I expected... No disrespect to anybody. It's just a shame this "competitive" community has to use such demeaning and derogatory terms to talk about Reach. I want a skillful game--we all do. I don't like the camping in Reach [i]at all[/i]. but really? Why would you talk about it like this? I'm going to leave before I get in trouble. I hope you guys find the resolution you were looking for. [/quote] I was never being derogatory. And you know Costa means well. We all want Reach to be good; we just have our own ways of expressing our thoughts.[/quote] lol i overreacted. Going to message an apology to OP. Carry on the discussion...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 Randomness is key to a none boring game, lets take CoD its the game of camp and people wait for that one guy who gets sick of waiting, leaves to the open and everyone fires at him. CoD gets old real fast and if halo were the same all the time it to would get old.[/quote] CoD has the most randomness of them all, hence why it is a poorly made game. Here's an example: If I played you in a 1v1 to 15 kills in Halo 3, I would win. You may get a few kills on me, but the overall outcome will be in the favor of the more skilled player. Does that make sense?[/quote] CoD is pretty predicable IMO and yeah you could beat me in a 1v1 dosen't mean you could beat my friend whos a 40 because he got sick of ranked and switched to social.[/quote] I could beat him too. Not that 1v1s prove much anyway.[/quote]I could beat you in a 1v1 easily.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat Wow paranoiaa is quoting me fast. I'm trying not to single him out. I don't want to sound like a dick. I just honestly got what I expected... No disrespect to anybody. It's just a shame this "competitive" community has to use such demeaning and derogatory terms to talk about Reach. I want a skillful game--we all do. I don't like the camping in Reach [i]at all[/i]. but really? Why would you talk about it like this? I'm going to leave before I get in trouble. I hope you guys find the resolution you were looking for. [/quote] I was never being derogatory. And you know Costa means well. We all want Reach to be good; we just have our own ways of expressing our thoughts. [Edited on 06.06.2010 10:53 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sir Brane Damuj [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa That's because there is no skill gap from 1-40. Everyone is still bad (no offense).[/quote] So basically a 5 year old can get to 40 within a few days cause no one at all is skilled.[/quote] Yes.[/quote] Wow i give up, You think because your a general you know whats best and you judge a game by its beta build which was released so it could voice everyone's opinions. Its like talking to a brick wall.[/quote] Actually, he's right. I'm terrible at this game and even I have a 45.[/quote] I goosed my way to my 37. I think that says something.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa That's because there is no skill gap from 1-40. Everyone is still bad (no offense).[/quote] So basically a 5 year old can get to 40 within a few days cause no one at all is skilled.[/quote] Yes.[/quote] Wow i give up, You think because your a general you know whats best and you judge a game by its beta build which was released so it could voice everyone's opinions. Its like talking to a brick wall.[/quote] I'm stating my opinon, just as everyone else is. Just because my opinion is of the minority here does not mean I am wrong. I've played over 8,000 matchmaking games. I do know a thing or too about what makes good gameplay. The beta was to sort out minor bugs and things of that nature. There will be no drastic changes in the retail game.

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  • Wow paranoiaa is quoting me fast. I'm trying not to single him out. I don't want to sound like a dick. I just honestly got what I expected... No disrespect to anybody. It's just a shame this "competitive" community has to use such demeaning and derogatory terms to talk about Reach. I want a skillful game--we all do. I don't like the camping in Reach [i]at all[/i]. but really? Why would you talk about it like this? I'm going to leave before I get in trouble. I hope you guys find the resolution you were looking for.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iTz Mr Quincy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa Thanks for using facts and evidence to support your argument. It really swayed my opinion.[/quote] As soon as I saw "Defense" as the OP, I knew it was going to be a sickening thread. I'm all for competitive gameplay. I hate playing a noobish game. I don't want people to AR rush me. But really? This thread is completely sickening. It's like I walked into a holocaust. What a disgrace to the community. [/quote] You didn't look at the gamertag first? I always do that now, so when I see a new poster with a one word name, I can see if it's Costa or Cooper.[/quote] I know the OP and his posting style. I don't want to single any one out, but I've been around long enough to know who's who and what they do. I respect Defense, but I don't like what he posts at all. It's really a shame. You can make a point without being a complete asshat. I'm honestly speechless. I really disliked the Beta. I know I'm going to enjoy the full game, but the Beta was a disappointment for me. That doesn't mean I'm going to embarrass myself and make a thread like this. I want to work together as a community to come to a point of compromise and understanding on what will work best for everybody. Declaring right out that half the population is stupid and/or the game is completely retarded is not a way to go about doing it. I'm sorry... [/quote] Wow. This might be the first post I completely, and totally agree with.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa That's because there is no skill gap from 1-40. Everyone is still bad (no offense).[/quote] So basically a 5 year old can get to 40 within a few days cause no one at all is skilled.[/quote] Yes.[/quote] Wow i give up, You think because your a general you know whats best and you judge a game by its beta build which was released so it could voice everyone's opinions. Its like talking to a brick wall.[/quote] Actually, he's right. I'm terrible at this game and even I have a 45.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iTz Mr Quincy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa Thanks for using facts and evidence to support your argument. It really swayed my opinion.[/quote] As soon as I saw "Defense" as the OP, I knew it was going to be a sickening thread. I'm all for competitive gameplay. I hate playing a noobish game. I don't want people to AR rush me. But really? This thread is completely sickening. It's like I walked into a holocaust. What a disgrace to the community. [/quote] You didn't look at the gamertag first? I always do that now, so when I see a new poster with a one word name, I can see if it's Costa or Cooper.[/quote] I know the OP and his posting style. I don't want to single any one out, but I've been around long enough to know who's who and what they do. I respect Defense, but I don't like what he posts at all. It's really a shame. You can make a point without being a complete asshat. I'm honestly speechless. I really disliked the Beta. I know I'm going to enjoy the full game, but the Beta was a disappointment for me. That doesn't mean I'm going to embarrass myself and make a thread like this. I want to work together as a community to come to a point of compromise and understanding on what will work best for everybody. Declaring right out that half the population is stupid and/or the game is completely retarded is not a way to go about doing it. I'm sorry...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iTz Mr Quincy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa Thanks for using facts and evidence to support your argument. It really swayed my opinion.[/quote] As soon as I saw "Defense" as the OP, I knew it was going to be a sickening thread. I'm all for competitive gameplay. I hate playing a noobish game. I don't want people to AR rush me. But really? This thread is completely sickening. It's like I walked into a holocaust. What a disgrace to the community. [/quote] You didn't look at the gamertag first? I always do that now, so when I see a new poster with a one word name, I can see if it's Costa or Cooper.[/quote] He knows who the OP is.[/quote] I didn't think it because they always make these kind of threads. You'd think everyone would know they would create another one.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa That's because there is no skill gap from 1-40. Everyone is still bad (no offense).[/quote] So basically a 5 year old can get to 40 within a few days cause no one at all is skilled.[/quote] Yes.[/quote] Wow i give up, You think because your a general you know whats best and you judge a game by its beta build which was released so it could voice everyone's opinions. Its like talking to a brick wall.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iTz Mr Quincy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iTz Mr Quincy Um, okay... can you get back on the subject we were talking about before, and you two stop arguing about who's e-peen is bigger?[/quote] A little side conversation never hurt anyone.[/quote] I just wanted a more interesting thread.[/quote] Well I'm not trying to brag to him; I'm just conveying the truth.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iTz Mr Quincy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa Thanks for using facts and evidence to support your argument. It really swayed my opinion.[/quote] As soon as I saw "Defense" as the OP, I knew it was going to be a sickening thread. I'm all for competitive gameplay. I hate playing a noobish game. I don't want people to AR rush me. But really? This thread is completely sickening. It's like I walked into a holocaust. What a disgrace to the community. [/quote] You didn't look at the gamertag first? I always do that now, so when I see a new poster with a one word name, I can see if it's Costa or Cooper.[/quote] He knows who the OP is.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iTz Mr Quincy Um, okay... can you get back on the subject we were talking about before, and you two stop arguing about who's e-peen is bigger?[/quote] A little side conversation never hurt anyone.[/quote] I just wanted a more interesting thread.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa Thanks for using facts and evidence to support your argument. It really swayed my opinion.[/quote] As soon as I saw "Defense" as the OP, I knew it was going to be a sickening thread. I'm all for competitive gameplay. I hate playing a noobish game. I don't want people to AR rush me. But really? This thread is completely sickening. It's like I walked into a holocaust. What a disgrace to the community. [/quote] You didn't look at the gamertag first? I always do that now, so when I see a new poster with a one word name, I can see if it's Costa or Cooper.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DeftestAdam366 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa That's because there is no skill gap from 1-40. Everyone is still bad (no offense).[/quote] So basically a 5 year old can get to 40 within a few days cause no one at all is skilled.[/quote] Yes.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] iTz Mr Quincy Um, okay... can you get back on the subject we were talking about before, and you two stop arguing about who's e-peen is bigger?[/quote] A little side conversation never hurt anyone.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xParanoiaa That's because there is no skill gap from 1-40. Everyone is still bad (no offense).[/quote] None taken. I find it hilarious that I can aim better off the back of a goose than I can off of it.

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