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9/27/2016 1:24:55 PM
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No give me back my magazine size for Arminius-d. High RoF are not in a great place. It's already a ln uphill battle against pulses and handcannons. You can't compartmentalize. Stop thinking of how they should be and think about how OTHERS shouldn't be and ADD that to the subject, this being autos. In advance you're welcome.
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  • No. we shouldn't nerf pulses and cannons. We need to buff everything else. And high RoF are in a great place. You just suck with them. They will always beat pulses and HCs in their optimal range.

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  • I did not say to nerf them. Since you can't understand intermediate vocabulary let me simplify. I want Autos up to standard with the others, not the others weakened. Add what pulses(consistency, stability?) and Handcannons(impact, headshot reward/crit dmage) have to Autos, even by a tiny bit, 3-5% could do it. For the record I use Autos plenty. When I use Autos, I average around 1.3-1.5 right? I pick up a hawksaw, use it against the same group of people, and I get an 8.0 that match. I used it up close, long and far. So pulses can function at an Auto's range and more. HC can kill faster than Auto's at this same optimal range you vaguely described. Let not start on shotguns(shotguns do not bother me one bit they are perfect, just another point I can win with). Saying I just suck at a weapon I use very well just shows you lack points and want to put some neat filler to fluff up your statement. I probably play less than 20% of the time you play crucible and I do very well. I forget though, people like you won't see my point, instead they just say I need to get better; well what if I already am?

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  • But you aren't better. I just posted about buffing Autos. That's what you want right? High RoF are perfect.

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  • Uh, what? Alright I'll play along. So if high RoF are perfect, what is everything else that is better?

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  • Better than high RoF? High RoF only loses to last word in its optimal range. It should only be a short/short-mid weapon. Any longer then it should lose, which it does.

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  • Ok I need to simplify again. -What do you call pulses and handcannons that perform better, if you are calling high RoF Autos perfect?- Last word is what it is and should stay that way. You still have the entirety of hawksaw pulses and most handcannons that destroy. I mean I used a pulse for the first time in crucible and destroyed. Save the "just use pulses then" remark. That is not the point. Anyway, with the nerfs we have to carry and the risk of getting that close to optimize(Once again the current shotgun meta) it is an uphill battle. Remember what I listed: -consistency -stability -impact -headshot reward/crit damage Notice I did not list range? They should not have range, correct. There are so many high RoF Autos now and I can bet not a single one is being touched. Khovostov does decently well but like the rest of year three they do not perform well when compared to its year two ancestors. Also judging by the comments above me people are agreeing. I bet what you are wondering by now is "ok hamster what do you want that will make you shut up?" Magazine size That's it. You wouldn't hear another complaint from me if they were back they way they were.

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