[i]"...Unless it's Taken..."[/i] - Eris Morn
With this dialogue in mind, it makes me beg the question. . . Do you think this means we won't be able to turn Ogres to our side with the Memory Of Timur artifact?
My understanding of the artifact is that we are able to turn lesser minions of darkness to our side (i.e. red bar enemies) for 30 seconds, but not Majors or Ultras because that could be [i]slightly[/i] OP..
[u]Slightly.[/u]
But [b]not all Ogres are yellow bar enemies.[/b] so I'm left unsure.
If Bungie is following the lore- we shouldn't be able to control any Ogre of any kind- unless Timur was stronger than Oryx. But if they're following the mechanics of the Artifact, however, then we should be able to control Ogres for 30 seconds at the expense of disregarding Eris' dialogue from TTK, albeit a piece of dialogue I could go without remembering.
What do you guys think?
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[b]Edit 1:[/b] [b][i]WOAH[/i][/b], guys. Woke up to a [u]lot[/u] of responses! We we're even trending there for a while! Love the speculations here, looking forward to reading through these all later today.
-[b]NEW INFO[/b]-
• Fallen Captains [i]and[/i] Hive Wizards are both able to be controlled. Seems to be a common misconception that only dregs, vandals, thrall, and psions can be controlled. [b]Not the case![/b]
-[i]Happy Gaming, Guardians.[/i]
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Edited by UIfhart: 9/22/2016 11:52:09 AMcan confirm, YOU CAN TURN OGRES if they are reds, happend in prison o felders today, fired his beam at the dark blade before he killed it, will upload edit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uDIvJU2amk
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Not even Oryx can control an ogre...except when he can!
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That one fallen captain certainly did a number on an ogre though 😬
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Nope thats y he took it and gave it as a gift
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"The traveler created the ghosts...to open doors" "Yeeeeesssss, may his dark soul go screaming into the night" "Omnigul!! [b]Destroy her!!!![/b]"
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Because I control them
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What if the first time you equip the artifact and use it on an Ogre, Eris comes back on the coms saying "Told you so", then the ogre kills you
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Timer whas strong..... I don't know if strong enough and if he is... His artifact might not be.....
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They should let you ride the ogre like a stallion into battle yelling chaaaaaaarge ! Lol could you imagine a fireteam rampaging thru doors all riding ogres 😂
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I can imagine in Crota's End, I can see [u]regular[/u] (Not Yellow Bar) Boomer knights shooting Crota down. That would make my day.
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Urzok, you're coming with me and Randal into Crucible...
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Chuck Norris can.
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Who needs to control it when you can deflect it
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Guardian,Archon Of Light
Blade Of The Traveler - old
We have proven to be stronger than Oryx, thus we can control an Ogre, and maybe even a Cabal Colossus -
Guardians are red bars...
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Well... When the hive release an ogre, they're not actually in commercial. However the ogre doesn't attack them because it has no reason to, the hive are just kinda random beasts of the darkness's like it is. However when it sees a guardian it tries really really hard to kill it and feed on its light, as the majority of ogres are left Chained up and starving and they are really really happy to see some light to eat that they just attack that. Now when we take control of an ogre could just override it's mind to attack light with attacking the darkness and whatever else it sees that aren't guardians, thus causing it to fight for us for those glorious 30 second. Lore-yard Plus 10 points to anyone who gets that reference
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Edited by LE4F20: 8/25/2016 10:33:53 PMIt's not based on color of health bar. It specifically mentions "low-power minions of the darkness." While Bungie hasn't given an enemy by enemy list of what will / won't be affected, it's safe to assume that it works on the lower minions of each enemy faction. So my thinking is Acolytes, Dregs, standard cabal, Goblins / Hobgoblins and such. Things like Ogres, Hydras, and Centurions will more than likely be totally unaffected.
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I think it means that the only way to bend an ogre to ones will is to take them like oryx does. The way they make ogres....scary stuff.
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Since we can control wizards and captains, even ones with shields, so long as they are red bars, I would presume the same is true of Ogres as well. I definitely intend to find out as soon as I get that artifact.
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Lol imagine controlling a taken goblin . Because it can give you immunity
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Bungie already said that the artifact will only control low hp enemies like thrall, acolytes, dregs etc
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I'm just gonna go find Randall, that guy can take a million melee's and not break a sweat, we'll be unstoppable!!!
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They won't give that much thought into it. Hell most strikes have dialogue that makes no sense Like when varkis says the comm is being jammed and fizzles out but 1 second after that he tells you without any fuzz or cut outs about being challenged.
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Stfu Eris...
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There are some Ogres that are red bar, but still interesting none the less!
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Someone want to try to find a glitch with me to take one as a pet? I'm planning to TAKE a taken wizard so it'll summon a crap load of Cannon fodder. Nevertheless, at least let us take one with us permanently in PvE areas. You know, that NPC fireteam.