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Edited by Lazyponi: 8/24/2016 12:30:13 AM
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Separate Playlist for Guardians after Going Flawless

What I am suggesting here is that characters who have gone flawless that weekend would be placed in a separate playlist from the normal trials playlist. This would only be per character per weekend. You can still do the bounties and the daily gold tier bounty just on a flawless playlist. This would still allow for competition against normally flawless players in the normal trials playlist but also allow for new guardians to experience the lighthouse by allowing for further competition against other guardians who haven't reached the lighthouse that weekend. Thoughts? Opinions? Ideas? Suggestions? Edit1: So I may not have made this clear, but what I am suggesting is that all players will play on the same playlist for trials until that character achieves flawless victory. I am simply stating that once that character goes flawless that weekend and they wish to continue playing that they play in a separate flawless playlist. Edit2: Changed the title to better encompass the idea I'm trying to get across. People don't like long pieces of text.

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  • I think you don't need a seperate playlist, but what should happen is the matchmaking should consider the average amount of times the fireteam have been flawless. What I mean is say on the fireteam you have player a has more than 10 flawless runs, the other 2 have had less than 5 between them, the game will average out the times completed and then match them against others of similar rating. And in turn the higher the amount flawless runs the higher the chance of better end game loot from the lighthouse or faction rep? Maybe have a buff that if the fireteam has one or more people who have not completed a flawless card will have unique drop for the carriers especially the higher the carriers flawless rating is? This would also allow for less experienced people (like myself) to have fairer match making or have more experienced people encouraged to help out others.

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  • Tbh if they matchmade the play list. The field would become a lot more diluted I terms of skill. That it would become a lot easer. And given how matchmakes teams currently 7 wins vs 7 wins etc. You last few games would still be solid as -blam!-. At the moment the skill gap and effort to even find a team capable locks me out of the activity which is a shame

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  • Dude its not gonna change much . The only thing that will happen is , that the streamers and carriers will keep one char for carries. They will not take any boons and their carries will activate boons. So they will not go flawless on that char the whole weekend and then get their flawless for their third char right before trails closes again. So in essence , the only thing this will change is that the player pool will shrink.

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  • Trials is the one thing this game has that sets it apart and makes it unique. It's the last Frontier for a Destiny player. Don't change it. It has prestige just the way it is. Diluting it is a bad idea. And check my stats. Ran trials ONCE. I stink!!! But I never want to go to the lighthouse unless I earn it. Making it easier for me doesn't make me feel good; it makes me feel inadequate. Suck it up and get better!! ~[i]US Army Vet[/i]

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    • Edited by Diamond D Nice: 8/24/2016 8:35:11 AM
      pretty much exactly what i thought it should have been. That said there are those that want everything to be super exclusive and to be a pretty snowflake. I disagree but they exist. But i can say i stopped playing trials long ago because it's a waste of my time as i never get to even seven wins or my xbox freezes like always when a round ends, i'm forced to reset the xbox so flawless is impossible because i get an automatic loss.

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    • Im sorry to break it to you but the world is a rugged place my friend. If a little guppy wants to swim with the big fish he better anticipate getting chomped on. But the beautiful thing about Destiny is no how many times your teeth get stomped into the curb you can pick them up, shove em back in your gums and try try again

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      • The number of players has dwindled to nothing, I've ran a card and played the same teams back to back multiple times. I'd enjoy if you had a separated matchmaking from the regular crucible. I have games of control or clash that I dominate just playing normally. In trials I am terrible and I haven't went flawless, I am a day one player. I find it saddening it is so difficult. It's extremely frustrating sometimes, but I'm sure a struggle to the end for that feeling would be worth it. I still wish that it was more appealing to more players in order to play people who aren't so great. Playing someone who is far better than you is just lame, that and say you're under light level (me for instance, I did say I was a day one but I took a break since TTK wasn't that awesome IMO) I played a card and basically only played 335 players. Really spoils the fun, not to mention no one on my team was 335

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      • Do it bungie

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      • Edited by JokerTuger: 8/24/2016 8:14:50 AM
        Your post is just 1 more from the "millions" that have been made about this. Not a single one was considered by bungie because, neither your sugestion or ranked matchmaking (this have been discussed for over a year. Some posts got thousands of replies) was ever mencioned by bungie. Just forget about it and keep enjoying the game as it is,because the partnership in between bungie/trials and streamers/carries/viewers is just to valuable for they to take the risk of ruining it. Cheers

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      • Edited by Yourfavouriteginger: 8/24/2016 8:16:28 AM
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      • Bump

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      • Yep,sounds good to me,I've stopped playing trials altogether,don't even play for bounties anymore,I just find it too frustrating to play,maybe if these "try hard teams" go to another playlist it will make it easier for the average players to do better and further encourage them to keep playing/improving,I may never get to the lighthouse but I think it would make more competitive games and be more fun to play.

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        • Edited by JensBoef: 8/24/2016 8:11:10 AM
          100% agree. One trip to the lighthouse per character per week and after that you go to an elite playlist. We can even argue that Trials should be a weekly activity in stead of a weekend activity. At this point there are people playing trials just to prevent others from going to the lighthouse. To counter that other people start carries to the lighthouse, which is in a way weird, because they are still preventing other people from going to the lighthouse by giving one or two a free trip. Some even for money!!! Most people have given up on trials. What was that about only 3% of the guardians ever even tried trials? Yeah, so one trip to the lighthouse per character a week. People can still go 156 times a year to the lighthouse if they want and give others the opportunity to go there. There are only 16 adept weapon versions to begin with, so 156 times should be more than enough to get them all.

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        • It's a good idea but I don't think it would be used much since when people go flawless they usually just go to work on the other character and try to get flawless on that one.

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        • Yup it needs to happen. Give them golden flames if completed flawless that weekend. If flawless without buffs the red flames plus a permanent spawn effect for achieving it.

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        • Too many people make money doing carries for this to happen

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        • Honestly, I don't really know what would be better. It sucks to lose in the later matches to people that have gone flawless 10+ times that week. I think that's kind of a douchey thing to do but, if they are skilled enough to do it, you know what real reason is there to stop the,. But that's kind of part of what trials is. I feel like, if your ( including my fireteam as well, I didn't go flawless last week because of those players ) fireteam can't overcome those players, then you don't really deserve to go flawless that run. The whole point of trials is the best of the best overcoming one another. That's the reason that i'm not a big fan of trials carries but that's topic for another time.

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        • The only thing with that is all the people asking for a seperate bracked for non flawless and flawless players is that once they go flawless once playing against non flawless players they will continue complaining. Once they get tossed into the "been flawless" playlist they'll just get dumped and be back to square one.

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          • Unfortunately it wouldnt work. Everyone doing repeat carries just dont buy the boons so they just keep running repeatedly and never have to go flawless.

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            • A lot of people don't realize that there is not very many people playing this game at the moment, and you are very likely to run into streamers/sweats. Once ROI drops, there will be a lot of "casual scrubs" that you will easily take out on your way to the lighthouse

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              • YES THIS IS A GOOD IDEA

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              • I've been flawless over 100 and some odd times.. The past few weeks it has been slowly getting harder to do (probably because I play with a different fireteam every card) but it keeps matching me with top 100 players that are playing with other top 100 players.. and those dudes have aimbot haha (but for real they have perfect accuracy, sliding, jumping, rolling, taking a hundred bullets to the face, they'll hit your head every time with that snipe.. I can hold my own.. last week I finished with a respectable 1.5 KD (which I was happy with considering every other team had a -blam!-ing top 100 player it seems. TLDR.. it's hard for good and great players.. I can't even imagine what it's like for those casuals that rock a 1:1

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              • I just want the grimoire card tbh

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                • Rewards suck now at the lighthouse. Void messenger ftw.

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                • I agree but it's going to make matchmaking a bitch

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                • Please

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