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Edited by Knacko:
8/24/2016 1:45:06 AM
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Buff Hawkmoon
Okay, let me keep this short and simple. The legendary counterpart of an exotic gun should not out perform it's exotic countertop. Revert range to pre-December update and buff the stability to almost if you applied Braced Frame. Seems fair since Eyasluna, out performs it almost in every category; it can two tap even more consistently, can roll with better aim assist,
Edit 1: Okay, scratch what I said earlier, I did the math, and it almost can two tap just as consistently as any legendary handcannon with LiTC. So just a minor range buff with an above average stability buff? The recent recoil nerf wasn't necessary.
Edit 2: Keep in mind, I don't want a Hawkmoon meta again. I don't want to buff hand cannons as a weapons class all together(not saying that would be bad). I just think that Hawkmoon's stats should be better than or equal to its legendary counterpart. It's an exotic weapon, it should be pretty good.
Open to any suggestions or changes.
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Just buff range and stability by 5
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Hand guns in general need a buff but hawk moon seems fine to me i can go hame with the hand gun :)
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1 ReplyI seemed to be getting one shot with it in IB this morning. Nothing to do with the lag lol.
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1 ReplyHidden rangefinder perk. Very slight bumps to stability and range. But very slight. Otherwise it would be overused which is what we don't want because then people will call for nerfs.
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1 ReplyHawk moon is a 2 shot to the head for what reason does it need to be buffed
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Mr_BohanonBANG!POW!ZAP!!! - old
Anyone notice the recoil pattern for Hawkmoon has changed? Seems way more stable...not nearly as much " up and right recoil" . I actually pulled it out of the vault and started using it again and it feels smoother than just a few weeks ago. -
I love to use this weapon still but my god if only there would get rid of the secret perks where it has more ghost bullets per mag than litc shots... Really annoying[spoiler]yes, I do use handcannons a lot and understand bloom and to pace my shots and still consistently get ghost bullets[/spoiler]
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2 RepliesHawkmoon is pretty good. Legendary HCs are more consistent because they can roll with better range but Hawkmoon can more reliably two tap, which I feel like makes it live up to it's exotic status. IMO is a balanced gun a shouldn't be touched.
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Edited by tesc22: 8/23/2016 10:22:46 PMRemove bloom effect an all hand cannons Hawkmoon needs more range, stability and the original 1.3x bonus damage
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6 RepliesWhat legendary can 2 shot someone in the head?
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Yes hawkmoon is an exotic, it should be better than a legendary.
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They need to buff all hand cannons, they took the nerf train too far on this weapon class. Hand cannons are basically Pulse Rifles before their rise to kingdom.
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Buff all handcannons in general. Their RNG accuracy and range is AIDS.
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If I had to pick a change for the Hawkmoon, I would switch it's archetype with the First Curse. Then its ridiculous two tap would be balanced by low rof [i]and[/i] rng. First curse would preform better if its rof was like the Hawkmoon since it'll never two tap a healthy guardian as it is anyways (maybe weapons of light can, never tried that one). Only then would I accept a slight buff to Hawkmoon base stats. As it stands, when the gun hits its mark, it's the best gun in the game atm, other than tlw, because currently no other gun has an effect that boosts its archetype's time to kill. A straight buff to Hawkmoon would be irresponsible if you ask me.
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How about no
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Yeah. In Y1 It was a god! Like legit you would 2 shot Almost everything and you bearly had any fall off dmg and It was legit a god! I jused It before i got the thorn (OP version)
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2 RepliesEww stop
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4 RepliesHey, on a side note - has anyone found Finnalia's Peril to feel quite heavy compared to Eyasluna? I picked up old Fatebringer the other day and the handling was unreal - so light and responsive. Real snappy. Everything else is not as good. I did get a nice fixer this morning so I'll try that out for size. Maybe its just sureshot IS making it feel good. I really don't understand it.
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Ammo capacity buff needed
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I completely agree with you hawkmoon is my favorite exotic in the game and it desperately needs range so I think a good fix would be to remove hammer forged and replace it with rifled barrel and/or add rangefinder as a hidden perk.
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IMO i hate the campy slow paced crucible style and i always have but i still play an adapt...been a beta player before destinys release and have been playing since day one and ivee been through all the nerfs and buffs...non of which really bothered me except suros and hawkmoon...once i got my first hawkmoon I NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVVVERRRRRRRR unequiped it in PVP OR PVE bcuz it was soo good i guarantee if hawkmoon got returned to its former glory snipers wouldnt be camping and hardscoping anymore and i want the hawkmoon to have a HUGE range buff to compete with atleast pulse rifles or some what of a scout...handcannons arent the pistols in this game a hand cannon is the size of the players middle finger to s couple inches from the bottom of their wrists..meaning that They are pretty HUGE for a hand gun and its called a hand cannon for a reason instead of hand glocks or something so my plint being all hand cannons should have range and power just like any other primary in the game...i dont wanna feel cripped in order to get a kill in the crucible i have to he in fusion rifle range or low range i want to kill people like everyone else kills me across the map with my hand cannons soo buff hawkmoon and hands cannons in general and remove the bloom completly and buff the other nerfed primaries
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8 RepliesBungie just can't win. First the whiners came out and complained that the hand guns were too powerful in PVP. Now they are out again complaining they aren't strong enough. It never ends.
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7 RepliesIt's fine it's not meant to compete with scouts
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3 Repliesfor hawkmoon to be good they need range finder and riffled barrel. take out one of the luck in the chambers for range finder and it will be god like.
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3 RepliesI agree that the eyesluna is better than hawkmoon in pvp. I don't know if I agree with all of your reasoning, but i personally perform much better with the eyesluna than the hawkmoon in almost any situation. I am just confirming that this has been my experience as well, and I agree with you that this should not be the case.
