Edit 3: I'll put this here so everyone can see it first If you are going to comment READ THE WHOLE POST
FIRST THINGS FIRST
I don't want to see you guys nerfed. However, with things the way they are now, the forum babies will begin to cry nerf on your Shoulder Charge which will restart the horrible domino effect that is, "Every class trying to nerf the other one".
My suggestion is a simple one. I don't want your perk nerfed but it's been abused lately. So I've been thinking of ways to balance it and finally hit me.
We don't need to nerf the target acquisition or the distance, we don't need a cool down timer, we don't need it to take up an energy charge, and we certainly don't need to stop 1hitKOing.
However, to stop another nerf war from happening would guys agree to putting a -1 Armor effect on Shoulder Charge?
It uses the same principal of the perk Blink, in that it has a -1 Recovery Stat attached to it.
This would stop Titans who are abusing it from just running around relying solely on SC, giving other Guardians a chance to stop them before they use it.
SC should be used I'm situations where you turn a corner and intercept a guardian who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
It shouldn't be used as a discount pseudo shotgun. You shouldn't be running up to an enemy Guardian who is 100yrds. away, with the intent that you're going to shoulder charge them, rather than use the guns in your hand.
So I'll ask again, to prevent another nerf war and for the sake of balance would you be okay with having a -1 Armor Stat attached to shoulder charge?
P.s. I think we should discuss all balance issues like this from now on. Rather than demanding a nerf on a perk or class, let's ask that class to negotiate with us and offer a solution to what our problem is and work it out that way until agreeable terms are met.
Thanks for listening Guardians :)
Edit: A fellow Guardian named COOKIEMONSTER79 has also suggested a -1 to Agility rather than Armor and I think that his suggestion would work just as well if not better than mine.
Edit 2: 100 Replies! Thanks Guardians.
I'm really glad to see a lot of Titan mains supporting my idea!
Edit 4: Over 500 replies!
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I've never heard of or seen a Titan who relies solely on shoulder charge that didn't end up going like 15-30.
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I don't mind it to much, but yes, the constant spamming of shoulder charge is a small problem.
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LMFAO you idiots get a subclass nerf and now you want a different subclass nerfed? LMFAO...... Whhaaaaaaa but they have never received a Nerf ...Whhaaaaaaaaaa
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Look at the stupid huntards and hoelocks tryna get shoulder charge nerfed. If your dumb enough to hardscoppe half hour down a lane, you deserve to take a knee.
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Stop being a hypocrit. By posting this you have become part of the nerf brigade. No true Titan wants this and I can guarantee that the majority of the votes are from Hunters and Warlocks.
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Hell NO! Your idea is as idiotic as the people calling for a NERF on everything else. The shoulder charge isn't abused, isn't OP, isn't to be when turning corners. The fact that I have managed to haul ass over to you across the entire map and manage to knock the snot out of you is your own fault. You had options, you have primaries, snipers, heavies, supers, melees, jumps and the ability to run away. The fact that I can smash the snot out of you is NOT my fault. It's 100% yours for being a scrub. If I kill you with shoulder charge 3 or more times in a game it's because, you are a scrub. Get Good!
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I agree with your suggestion. This would add some risk/reward factor to the SC. But let's not kid ourselves. SC hasn't changed much since launch. Now, after the fact that people had some of their subclasses change/nerfed, people are crying for a nerf to titans and their abilities. This isn't out of a legitimate concern for it being broken or overpowered. No no no, it's being done in retaliation and without any real logic. SC has been largely the same since day 1. It doesn't need to be changed or nerfed. It works as intended and can be countered by several things (i.e. shotguns, map awareness, positioning, etc).
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Nope, tie the perk to the melee energy.
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Dilemma?? Really? Go -blam!- yourself
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-1 agility wouldn't be too bad. But if you just removed the ability to skate then I think your class would be fine.
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Or we can just leave it as it is.
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I think people should say "7L7" to all Nerf posts to try and get people to negotiate instead of cry.
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Titan skate and lighting grenades also need a nerf.
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Dude... u take this game way too seriously
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Personally I like this it doesn't really ruin the titan and it offers risk vs reward
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Nerf that wall of text! Should have said: Everyone, stop crying nerf and start crying buff, here's a camel 🐪
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Edited by Stinky Steve: 6/20/2016 3:41:20 AMBut where's the option for not caring about the nerf if it does happen? ;-; [spoiler]potato[/spoiler]
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As long as when our flying dead bodys kill on contact
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I mean.... Are y'all trying to make it so there's literally no reason to play Titan?
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No, shoulder charge is fine leave it as is. Shouldn't be so unaware that a Titan is rushing you. Main Warlock
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Nerf shoulder charge and every titan will run max armor or juggernaut. So have fun with that
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There ain't no dilemma, not with shoulder charge. Titan strikers are supposed to be what they are.
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The way to "solve" shoulder charge: Get third eye perk. Or Don't hard scope.
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What dilemma? Shoulder charge isn't that great. Can't tell you how many times I've died mid charge
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Minus 1 armor would be better. Or, reduce the lunge radius. But really, it isnt that big of an issue. Im cool with is as is. And i main a hunter.
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Edited by Shirtless_Captain_Kirk: 6/19/2016 2:36:30 PMShoulder charge is very high risk/reward. It doesn't need a nerf, it takes a great deal of awareness to use properly and is the only "art form" in Destiny. Your post was sensible, but it's off base. If you're dying to shoulder charge a lot it's due to your setup more than likely.