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Well you can say thanks to all the crucible crybabies, they are responsible for the nerfs to supers, weapons and armour. Feel free to disagree. This is just my opinion.
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  • Edited by SamSu916: 4/26/2016 11:33:43 PM
    Meanwhile that's true(crucible and complaints), Sunbreakers were in fact OP. It's not an opinion, it is a fact. It was OP in the crucible anyways. If they somehow managed to leave it the way it was in PvE and have the change only apply to the crucible then that would be just gravy. @Topic Yeah I've never felt like golden gun was anything special in PvE. It's just more or less something to save a few shots of heavy ammo. Thankfully we have shadowshot.

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  • Sunbreakers were not op. HoS was [i]slightly[/i] op, but the neutral game is crap. Balance. You either make everything mediocre or one part bad and the other epic. Sunbreakers were the latter. Now they're just trash. And for god's sake, why does everyone [i]still[/i] zero in on Sunbreakers. It's been nerfed to hell unnecessarily. Leave it be. It wasn't even the most powerful of the new supers. The others haven't been touched. By all means explain that.

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  • Edited by SamSu916: 4/27/2016 2:06:44 AM
    Sunbreaker hammers were OP in PvP, it's not a discussion. Just that alone carried the subclass over the top in the crucible. That thing not only has range, AoE damage, lasted too long, can tank a golden gun hit, but it also tracked and one shotted EVERYTHING in crucible. Statistically it is OP in crucible. It's not a debate, it was OP and if you think otherwise it's your own problem for not seeing it. You would be in the same boat as the players who defended blade dancers being "balanced" in crucible way back then. PvE however is a different story, they should have left it as is for that. I already stated that it is OP in strictly crucible already so I don't have to explain anything there.

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  • That's funny, you're not one of those experts that never played the class are you? You sound silly. Any Titan knows that tracking for hammers never did much of anything. Now we have perks in the skill tree that, honestly, do nothing. I don't even use the subclass for anything anymore. Not PVE not PVP.

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  • Oh, so you're just going to exaggerate everything in a poor attempt to vindicate yourself? That's just sad, kiddo. The tracking was minimal. Much less than other similar abilities. The blast radius was less than that of a grenade. Much less than that the more common rocket launchers. It's kill potential was no higher than that of arcblade, and less than stormtrance. It did not last too long, and if you think so, then you have to make the same argument for stormtrance, arcblade, and radiance. On top of all of that, it's neutral game is absolute rubbish. Meaning that when the super got nerfed because of whiny little bitches like you, the entire subclass became unusable. I don't expect you to acknowledge simple facts like these, seeing as how you'd have to put aside you planet sized ego. That doesn't change reality.

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  • It's bitches like you is why the game will never be balanced around you. Was the sunbreaker hammer nerf justified for the crucible? Yes it f'ing was. Your ego is just so big that you cannot see it. Go figures right? A titan main can't take criticism about a titan while a hunter main(me) can admit the fact that bladedancers used to be OP as shit in the crucible. Ego problem much? Yeah saying that I have an ego problem does not make it all of a sudden you get a free card of not having ego problems. Did they take the sunbreaker nerf too far? Again hell f'ing yes they did. THEY DID need a nerf however it was taken a bit too far. Get that through that giant ego of yours and maybe you'll start seeing things in a better light.

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  • You utter moron. Bladedancers have an absurdly good neutral game. The super was a bonus on top of that. HoS was [i]not OP[/i]. Not when compared to other supers. Not when you take into account the useless neutral game. And certainly not when you look at the actual [i]facts[/i] instead of the bs retards like you pull out of your ass. Good for you, admitting that an [i]actually[/i] OP subclass was too powerful. Too bad you didn't say it when it was an issue. Too bad you're a typical Hunter, who can't stand another class being more powerful than you. Too bad you're an ignorant little prick so blinded by your own ego that you can't see reality. I know nothing I say can make you see sense, and that you'll carry on as the caustic little child you are. But who knows? Maybe when you've been called stupid enough times, you'll realize that it's true.

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  • Look at that ego go, with such a big head you think there would be knowledge in there except it's truly just filled with ego. Keep living in your own little world, good thing almost nobody else lives in such a world. Because you know, balance would never exist with you in charge of it. Stay ignorant and in denial, at least it's not affecting anyone else.

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  • Wow. Very well spoken. I don't think I could butcher English that badly if I tried. You know kid, keeping your head that far up your ass can't be good for your health. It also makes you incapable of seeing the facts. You say [i]I'm[/i] the one with the ego? Try looking in a mirror. You're an ignorant blowhard, absent even the slightest understanding of the notion of balance. I imagine you think that shadow stalkers are fine, and there's nothing wrong with stormcallers. But then an arrogant buffoon like yourself goes against all reason. If you enjoy being mocked, then by all means, carry on in your stupidity. If not, I suggest you extract your face from your anus and make an effort to see reality.

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  • It's pretty bad how useless Sunbreaker became. When TTK first came out it was a fun time in PvE, now I feel like it's a showoff super more than it is damage.

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  • Can't disagree . Wish instead of ruining PVE because of all the waaaamburger eating PVP players they would just leave a box of tissue paper in they're post office

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  • Mm mm. Whaaamburger... (Insert Homer Simpson noise)

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  • Ha ha spot on chap

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  • Bungie needs to quit "making things equal" between PvP and PvE weapons/subclasses. It's a bit ludicrous that they would nerf sniper ammo in PvE because they wanted it to "feel consistent" with PvP. Nobody in your community cares for that crap, Bungie.

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  • +1000

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  • Edited by SamSu916: 4/26/2016 11:35:21 PM
    Yep. They seriously need to understand that there is no consistency when it comes to PvP and PvE. They're completely different worlds and can appeal players with polar opposite styles of gameplay.

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  • This

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  • This guy gets it

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  • What you stated is not an opinion. #FACT

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  • Agreed. That is the closest thing to a fact as I've seen on these forums lol

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  • Pvp nerfs had nothing to do with pve damage this happened since year one

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  • Edited by xcutioner_0: 4/27/2016 12:09:28 PM
    Wow you're dumb. And I mean really [i][b]dumb[/b][/i].

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  • Yes you are correct but perks are still effected by both

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  • What are you smoking?

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