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Edited by Chlo:
3/9/2016 1:20:56 PM
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How are firebolts with the burning perks OP?
[spoiler]they aren't[/spoiler] [spoiler]try to prove that they are OP[/spoiler] [spoiler]you can't[/spoiler] [spoiler]it looks like some of you don't know how to stay back or run and communicate with your teammates to also stay back[/spoiler] [spoiler]it takes up 2 perks and doesn't even kill you[/spoiler] [spoiler]its not OP , its ok[/spoiler] [spoiler] I said STAY BACK and people or I mean retards are still saying IT LEAVES YOU ONE SHOT FOR 14 SECONDS,SO OP and that one shot thing isn't that good more bullshit like that [/spoiler] [spoiler]there is somethings that do this thing called KILL[/spoiler]
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1 ReplyI don't even use fire bolts in Pvp. Solar grenade is so much more satisfying for me.
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Take away touch of flame perk & they'll cry about the extra fusion grenade that is instant death.
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It's funny cause most sunsingers only challenge when they have a grenade. If the grenade doesn't hit me they always run off.
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DoT itself is OP #MakeDoTBad...Now
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1 ReplySame way every DoT in the game is op because it does large impact along with DoT.
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3 RepliesBecause it burns for 14 seconds continuously and does over 120+ damage that's why. And firebolt has insane range but arcbolt sucks. Arcbolt needs a buff from 91 damage to around 102-115
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Edited by Diab3ticBatman: 3/16/2016 1:47:19 AMAs much as I hate the burn, they were never an issue in the past. Oh that's right, that's because weapons actually killed people then. XD
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2 RepliesHere is the #1 Fix to all problems with Grenades. You cannot argue it because it is 100% proven to fix all complaints with Grenades. Make every grenade a 1hk within their effective range. This would eradicate the "waaah it takes me out of the game for 14 secs" argument. Why? Because you'll be dead. Screw your 14 seconds, just hold X or Square and get your ass back in the game. It'll stop wombo combo. "Waah I can't move when the grenade burns me" Who cares about moving? You'll just die. Hold X or square and get to killin' If this is the case, then Warlocks will not need ToF + VF. Since everyone loves to say, "bwahh, there is no other reason for a Warlock to use the other perks in that skill tree" Boom, now they will use Radiant Will for a longer Radiance and Gift of the Sun for an extra grenade. Since Sunsingers super is based on its ability to toss Grenades like a damn sweatshop, they can a totally get kills instead of praying the person running away to just burn to death. There, Grenades fixed. Warlock OP Titans too, since Sunbreakers regen Grenades like a mofo if spec right. Tada
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Lol poo babies can't play without their crutch
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6 RepliesAs a Hunter main, they're not. To even use Firebolt Grenades effectively (they're probably one of the worst Grenades in the game), you're giving up 2 great Sunsinger perks (increased Radiance time and an extra Grenade) for the sake of using a grenade that can only kill low-Armor builds. It just doesn't seem worth it in PvP. If I ever used a Sunsinger, I'd much rather use double Fusion Grenades - they're much more powerful than Firebolts if you don't give up the perks.
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11 RepliesThere is an easy fix to all of this. Change how recovery works. Instead of having recovery start after a period of time with no damage. Have shields recover a set amount per second based on recovery.
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It's been the same in fact they reduced damage on impact people just complain cuz arc bolt isn't on par with it anymore
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1 ReplyI will honestly just use double sticky and then people will think that's "OP"
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People in trials just rush and spam nades then clean up. You literally cannot push when there is 1 warlock on the other team.
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1 ReplyThere's a difference between OP and Annoying
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Boinking Ada-1alive - old
Gotta say you're absolute right, I play my Titan more than my warlock but never had I felt that fire bolt was op, both year one an now. It's these stupid kids who think they're gaming gods an know what's best for the community. Plus I bet you majority that are crying for the nerf are hunters that are (no pun intended) getting burned. But for god sake don't think of nerfing nightstalkers so called "wombo combo" since nightstalkers are weak. But hey it's jus my two cents on the issue, really don't care either since I'll get my xbox one soon an the division. -
They aren't. Too many salty children were killed by it and think they are freaking rambo, so nothing should take them down, and if it does...NERF IT!
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1 ReplyEdited by Lecteragorn: 3/11/2016 7:28:52 PMStupid question gets an equally stipid answer.
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2 Repliesit does 160 damage while arc bolt and axion bolt do 122
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23 RepliesA Hunter, Titan, and Warlock are sitting at a table. The Titan, a Sunbreaker, is seriously wounded, and has a broken arm and leg. The Warlock, a Stormcaller, is in perfect health, and is sitting as calm as can be. The Hunter is pacing around the table, thinking deeply about what should be nerfed next. Hunter:Let's see, I just got killed by a sniper... he must have been relying on that aim assist crutch! NERF SNIPER AIM ASSIST BUNGIE, OMFG!!!! Warlock:Oh, will you just shut it already! Look at poor Jim over here. Points at Titan. He can barely move from what your constant bickering did to him. Titan: Need... super... energy... Hunter: Don't even bother, Jim. Now you know how us Hunters, the master race, felt when you bitched and complained about Bladedancers for a whole year. Titan: Please... no more... nerfs... Warlock:Okay, maybe the Sunbreaker was a little O.P, but that doesn't mean every other piece of equipment in the damn game needs to be nerfed along with it! Hunter:Oh crap! Bungie is about to buff auto rifles by... 7%! Oh no, that can't happen. *grabs phone.* Warlock: What the hell are you doing? Hunter: Hey, Xur! I have a job for you. Xur: It is my will to speak to you. Hunter:You know that 7% buff to medium RoF Auto Rifles due this Tuesday? Xur: I think the cells of this body are dying... Hunter: Move the decimal point to the left a bit! Xur: My will is not my own... Hunter: *hangs up.* Weird guy... well, I just prevented a possible O.P weapon buff. What's next? Let's see, I forgot to mention something... was it handcannons? No, they got nerfed ages ago... Ah, yes, Stormcaller!! Warlock: What the hell!? I'm perfectly balanced!!! Hunter: THAT GUY JUST KILLED ME FROM WAY TOO FAR AWAY!!! IT'S SO OP!!! Warlock: I'm not overpowered, what the hell is wrong with you? Hunter: ANOTHER ONE JUST KILLED ME! WHY IS IT SO OP!!! Warlock: Shut up! Please stop, Bungie might hear you! Hunter: *pulls out megaphone*. STORMTRANCE IS WAY TOO OVERPOWERED. PLEASE NERF THEM BUNGIE, NERF THEM!!! The Titan, unnoticed to this point, suddenly turns from bright orange to light blue. His broken limbs heal themselves, and he stands up vigorously. Hunter: Jim, did you just switch subcla- *drops megaphone.* OH SH*T!! *The Titan shoulder-charges the Hunter, sending him flying into the wall.* Titan: YOU... WILL NOT... NERF... MY FRIEND!! *The Titan activates his Fist of Havoc, demolishing the Hunter, and the entire wall behind him.* Warlock: Why... why did you do that? Titan: You don't know the pain I've been through these past few days. I - I don't want you to share the same fate. *The Hunter respawns next to the Titan.* Hunter: What the hell jus- wait, that was a Fist of Panic!!!! BUNGIE, NERF THE STRIKER! Warlock: Their super wasn't even buffed, dib sh*t. Hunter: I don't care!! THEY'RE SO OP!!! Titan: What if everything you ever wanted... Warlock & Hunter:????? Titan: WAS TO KICK SHIT IN THE FACE!? FOREVER! Warlock:What in the hell are you talking about? Titan:THEN YOU NEED PEREGRINE GREAVES!!! *Titan jumps in the air, then rams his knee into the Hunter's face.* Warlock:Why does he always brag about those damn things?
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9 RepliesIt's such a crutch it burns you for goddamn 14 seconds and that's a long time in pvp especially sweats and trials it's so annoying
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Burn lasts too long.
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Tne general consensus i bet from people withthag argument is they view it something around the lines of thorn back kn it's meta.... bahahahah fo these ppk actually remember that? It was so much worse
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Have the time I use them they don't even proc even though I hit the guy at the feet. In my opinion they need a buff
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Edited by mikePayne020: 3/9/2016 10:12:25 PM14 seconds to recover from firebolt wtf. Burns shouldnt even be a part of the game. All damage should be instant
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The only thing that bothers me is that ONE subclass can just "shadestep" away? Ok maybe if you do a complete shadestep one way you should be able to dodge it, but if you shadestep into a wall 3 inches away you should no dodge it...
