we had weapons and blessings on our first run and the exotic fire sword (i got it the 3rd time it came up) we slammed down the boss and went to work on adds with mg,zhalo and shotgun barely had 30 seconds left but made it second try this oen is definately doable but it might be harder

I respect that you have done a lot for people with your strategy but I am inclined to disagree. My friend and I have also carried many folk to their first Black Spindle by burning the boss down first and then making merry with the adds. I've done several different strategies and your guide is great for people who have not done this before or cannot keep up the damage output at the end. To each their own. What works for you will work for you. I prefer my Void Exotic Sword and running Bloodbound with Light of the Pack on my Nightstalker. The first room with that setup will generate enough orbs so we can clear it sub-1 minute and I will have recovered my entire Super by then and ready for the next room and so forth. When clearing adds after the Boss dies, Bloodbound does wonders to clear all the Psions, even with the limited range. It's a shorter tether but as long as fresh adds keep getting tethered and eliminated quickly it can be extended to last near a minute. I do however agree with Blackhole being very useful and a versatile Super. But you've found what works for you and have helped a [b]lot[/b] of people out. Way to go dude.