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Edited by Kobra: 12/15/2015 11:37:09 AM
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Book fixed in 24 hours, yet thorn took 8 months to fix, bungie cares about $ not players- 30 DOLLARS FOR LEVEL UPS ON PSN STORE LOL

Amazing how fast they put out a patch late at night to fix their wallet yet still screw over thousands of players with broken game mechanics. Hell, since TTK released the raid has had multiple bugs yet they go unfixed. Bungie in danger of losing some 10 dollar sales on their TWO MAP, ONE MODE "FREE EVENT"? patch overnight. If you still support them after this you're nothing but a silver sucking desticle. EDIT: let's see you defend bungie now, children. Cosmetics only, right guys? Paying for free dlc, right guys? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Shout out to people who waited months to get all 50 fragments and only got a timegated shader LOL

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    • Edited by Mad myall: 12/11/2015 4:06:44 AM
      People saying "b-b-but the money is needed to fund Bungie" They got 25 million to pay for a $60 game totalling too $900 million when the games entire budget was $500 million over 10 years. Sony continuously pays Bungie for exclusive missions, weapons, armour, and advertising. Bungie has announced that the microtransactions were a great success. Let's see what that gets us -No dedicated servers -updates can take anywhere from 3 months to 8 months -lots of bugs, glitches, and issues in each iteration of the game are never fixed. Merely being ignored until the next DLC or expansion replaces the old content and then the cycle continues -Playerbase is continuously ignored -Balance seems like a dream (0.7% change in auto rifle damage, 0.04% for High ROF auto rifles which is likely the worst type of weapon in game) -Bungie never admits fault -grind -dismal content in expansion made worse by removal of old content -Timegated exotics as opposed to the epic quests we hoped for (community was looking for Sleeper and as their theories got more and more complex Bungie released the Sleeper without saying a word, they could have ended the chase anytime they wanted, but they didn't) -events with some pretty lame quests and few added activities, (SRL adds 1 mode, 2 maps for a month (which mostly reuses past assets), and is not very well thought out) -"free" events just an excuse to push more microtransactions with the best and permanent stuff being locked behind a paywall (book costs $10 1/4 of what the TTK costs) -2 community managers who most of the time are doing nothing while people are trying to get bugs, and balance issues recognised by them. -"challenge" mode not living up to the hype of challenge or even bringing in extra content like expected (Bungie said that the raid was created and then cut back for normal which implies that normal was missing content, people began expecting parts of the raid never seen before in future updates of hard, then challenge, especially when people found extra areas outside of the map) -Raid drops "smart" loot system not working for months on end finally gets a message in feedback saying "we'll fix it one day, we just need to collect some data or something-excuse-excuse" -multiple exotics are useless, and Bungie has shown no indication of fixing this -but you get 1 racing mode and 2 maps that get boring after 4 races I mean almost every other company can do more with less then what Bungie has. 343 is making free DLC for H5 every month, and they don't add any microtransactions in fact everything you can get with microtransactions you can earn through normal play. Bethesda is getting flak for being lazy with their bug fixes, but they are still doing way more then Bungie while they have a much larger and diverse game, and they are charging $30 for a season pass. Super smash brothers brawl receives more balance and bug fixes then Destiny does while Nintendo has the Wii U floundering at the bottom of console sales. Destiny may not be dead, it may never die thanks to its truly dedicated fans, but if this continues it will become dead to me and many others. Only Destiny 2 has a chance to restore my hope as it seems that Bungie is pooling all its resources into it (the only possible theory as to why Destiny 1 is having such a poor time)

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      • They have been like that all along. (Fixed bugs that help the player quicker than the bugs that sucked for us) But anyone faulting bungie for fixing the book so fast is a hypocrite. If your wallet was sitting out and ppl took money out while walking by, you would fix that a lot quicker than a leaky faucet.

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      • Really, they also fixed the problem with decrypting exotic boots as well. I seem to see you glossing that over.

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      • thorn was so awesome

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      • Yeah reprogramming a complete new element to all guns isn't an overnight fix. This should be obvious. Furthermore, you shouldn't care unless you were trying to game the system.

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      • They patch glitches that allowed leveling to fast quickly as well. Everything else takes months and months. Some glitches with the raids never get fixed.

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      • Money is a strong incentive, can't fault them for jumping to fix it.

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        • Weapon balance is not a over night fix. They need a lot of data made by us to be able to make suitable nerfs/buffs. There's a lot that goes into the process that most don't seem to understand. A glitch that allows you to steal is fixable in a few hours.

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        • No characters over 300? Yep what I thought. Git gud scrub

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        • No surprise there. But Thorn didn't cost $10 to unlock.

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        • i dont know if this has been stated but them fixing the book because of $ goes both ways. i cant get mad at them for not fixing thorn right away because a. anyone had access to it and b. as far as we know it could have been "working as intended." However, that book alone cost me $10. and the community who purchased that book would have been wayyyyy more pissed if something that cost them $10 could be obtained by a simple glitch. Also, it probably took them way less time to fix the book than it does to do a weapon rebalance. Surely you can see why fixing the book in a quick manner was way more possible and necessary...

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        • Shock horror - publicly owned company cares about money! I thought they were in it for love.

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          • Edited by Sbuper: 12/11/2015 10:41:44 PM
            -Supports company by not robbing them -Suddenly becomes a strange living combination of a game and testicles -Only source of substance is a rare mineral -Wut

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          • I haven't seen any issues in the newest raid that weren't lag or player error related unlike the previous two raids.

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          • Chang game play no snipers and shotguns in trials

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          • OK, I know you're 11, and you don't know how money works. So, companies like bungie need money to work. Simple.

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            • Lol you reported me what a cry baby

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              I understand that the difference is huge but, The racing book: 1. Cost them money. 2. Had no other effects. Only negative. Some players stole the gear that others paid for. Thorn: 1. Was the meta. 2. Bungie apparently needs a lot of time to analyze the data they receive to make changes to the game. It took 3 months to get a simple sunbreaker nerf. Changing the racing book was a simple question. "Should we change this so we aren't being stolen from?" "Yes." Changing thorn or sunbreakers though. "Should we change these things?" "Let's see what the community thinks." "Community says yes." "How should we change?" "Let's see what the community says and look at all the data coming in about these things and do our own internal play tests." It's just a bit longer of a process.

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              • Edited by Marshall: 12/11/2015 7:13:48 PM
                Well, to be fair the patch also fixed the leg engram issue and some other stuff. 2.1 fixed many issues, but some bugs can be pretty deep and connected to a lot of things. I'm a software developer myself and I know that bugs can be tricky. You have to be able to fix the issue without introducing a new bug somewhere else. A hot fix is just a quick fix to address an actual bug where something isn't working as intended. It's not like they can just sit down for a few hours and fix the entire game. It takes time and they have to wait for a big release to make a lot of sweeping changes. I think each release has been a step in the right direction. They're making it better slowly but surely. I agree that they act quick when money is involved, but who wouldn't? They're a business and have stakeholders to worry about. Plus, I'm sure that people who bought the book appreciated it. It would suck to buy the book and see other people get the rewards for free. I'm not a "desticle". Just speaking logic and common sense. EDIT: I see that you edited your post and removed the Thorn example so I updated mine so that it makes sense. Hopefully it won't be edited again by the time I post this.

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              • Oh for the love of -blam!- To fix the book glitch, you need to disable an option to view it from the market. That's it. To nerf/buff guns, you need to first evaluate all the guns. Come up with plans on how to change the damage and other factors, and have them all change in a way that they will be "balanced" and have them even. Then they have to individually address the outliers, or in this case, Thorn. Next, they spend a ridiculous amount of time just changing the values of ALL the guns in the class individually and fine tuning them so they only deal more or less damage by a certain amount. Then you have to spend an amount of time doing it for EVERY single gun, even those common guns you havent seen since you were a noob. Example: You fine tune damage values for hand cannons to lower damage, then you have to decrease a completely different set of values for just range. Then you have to for stability and all the other values. FOR ONE GUN. THEN YOU REPEAT THE PROCESS. WITH ALL CLASSES OF GUNS. THEN YOU HAVE TO DO IT FOR UNLISTED VALUES LIKE HIP FIRE SPREAD. And then you have to test it and see if any inconsistencies happen, like if the values are too high or low, and spend a meticulous amount of time seeing if it feels right. Im no programmer, but I know enough to know that changing how guns handle in a game is a tough process. And it seems like none of you realize how tedious it is. This community really is toxic and taking things for granted. Tl;dr: A couple clicks can change a book exploit. A couple months can change guns. Shut up and deal with it.

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                • Not only that, weapon sandbox balance took a year. But be careful, desticles are on the prowl.

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                • Bad comparison but I do agree it was complete laziness on their end to address weapon balancing for danm near a year.

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                • Edited by Zeezke: 12/11/2015 6:41:10 PM
                  Yelling at a [i]company[/i] because they fixed a bug that cost them money.... You are a special kind of stupid.

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