I think Datto (and by extension the "hardcore" community) is being terribly myopic. It's as a result of the circles they stomp in, they play destiny for an exorbitant amount of time, they have a reliable Fireteam and are pretty much burnt out on Destiny. However, it is not the responsibility of destiny nor its developers to tailor make an encounter to cater to the absolutely minute percentage of the population they represent. Now he's on Twitter whining about why should the hardcore community care about the casual community and not vice versa (i kid you not) and let the hardcore community have one thing. They do have a thing, it's called kings fall. I remember when the raid launched and for hours these streamers and youtubers failed to even stagger Oryx, the only reason why they're breezing through the content now is the gear they rock and the experience of running the raid over and over since then. Check the global statistics for the "long live the king" trophy for some perspective, I'll wait. Destiny was never marketed as a hardcore game, that's not its primary audience. Challenge mode was never marketed as an insane spike in difficulty, as a matter of fact it was clearly stated as a specific way to do the encounter, if not, the encounter can be completed normally. This foolishness of "destiny should kick my ass more because I've achieved the pve skill (loosely used) ceiling" has to end. You can follow the footsteps of Sean Gallagher and beat Crota by all manner of madness. Go play Bloodborne and when you find out you suck at it, run back to your crutch Fireteam and act like you're top dog. You're not fooling anyone.