Time to post this again: [quote]Mesa's ultimate (was) essentially two golden guns without an ammunition limit and rapid fire (and auto-targeting). Valkyr's hysteria and Excalibur's Exalted blade put any blade dancer to shame, and for the former, make any titan with a bubble realize their error. Frost's snow globe will always slow, and never falter in the time it lasts. Limbo and Loki will make certain enemy guardians useless, at least temporarily. Banshee, Mag, Nova and Vauban will make them vulnerable (or worse) Rhino can also disable whilst taking on extra wounds with his iron skin. Guardians will turn against one another with Nyx Mag and Vauban will sweep them off their feet and crush them. Mirage and Volt will teach them pain from afar. Trinity an Oberon will tend to any wound Trinity and Nekros give the Tenno a steady supply of energy for all their abilities, and in the case of Nekros, turn any fallen guardian into an ally. Zephyr and Hydroid will force the guardians off their feet, looking in the wrong direction (which Loki can do too in a different way), and/or six feet under whilst gasping for air. Saryn, Chroma, Ember, and Ash, will just hurt a lot, sometimes in ways they can't counter. Accounting for Sentinels, Kubrows, and Spectres, alongside the fact they can deploy devices that release health, energy, or ammo pulses along side all this, and we've got a lot more guns and teeth coming along, and a good amount of backup plans. [/quote]