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Edited by Shen Anzusen:
10/9/2015 6:15:18 PM
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It's okay that I can not headshot-kill a sunbreaker during super
...BUT: When I run a Stormcaller with max armor and an armor increasing chestpiece, it's gotta be the same. And I also want that health regen after a kill.
Same goes for the bladedancers. Yes, they have regen, but increase their armor until you can't oneshot them with a high-impact sniper-headshot.
Let the titans have their OP super, but give the other classes one aswell and we won't have to nerf anything.
How about that?
Edit:
Obviously the solution is to down the sunbreakers armor so that a high impact sniper (1000yardstare) can headshot kill them during super.
I originally wrote this, because I didn't want to have the same discussion as in all the other nerf posts.
Titans act like we wanted them nerfed until they are "crap" like a defender, which is clearly not the case. All it takes to be appropriate is a little less armor. That's it.
Edit 2:
Really guys? You think it's appropriate to need the exotic Black Spindle? -.-
Edit 3:
I'm aware that Titans only have that much armor if they run max armor plus chestpiece. Someone wrote a good comparsion. Titans OHK my Stormcaller, while my super takes about 4sec to kill them. Stormcaller needs a damage buff.
Idc about armor or health regen, the Stormcaller ttk is just way to high. People have ages to counter me.
Edit 4:
We all know you have to wear a chestpiece... Not a big deal. Regular perk on almost every chestpiece nowadays. It's not like you're sacrificing anything.
We also know that you have to spec health regen. So what? Not a big deal if it does what it does...
Edit 5:
Also Sleeper Simulant is no acceptable solution. See Black Spindle...
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6 RepliesShit, what about gunslinger? You can slap a gunslinger in golden gun with a flaccid penis and they die.
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then make Titans faster. in fact, give everyone a standard loadout like halo.
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Look sunbreaker don't matter You can live the oversouls curse blocking with your sword and still have health
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I think its ok for you to STFU
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Yes. I think all supers need to be looked at closely. Supers like Nova Bomb are just left in the dust by these new supers. Maybe a nerf is a solution, but if there's no need then all the other supers need to be buffed to be equally deadly.
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Remember when fist of havoc was overpowered? Bungie won't do anything until everyone shuts the flying fu ck up and gives it at least 3 months.
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2 RepliesMy efrideets will one shot full health Sunbreakers no matter what armor tweaks or whatever. And as a hunter, there will be teabagging afterwards.
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Think about this... Most people who agree don't bother to post. Those who disagree and post it are scared they're going to lose their OP super. There is no REAL debate that it's off the wall stupid powerful. I play one and it's hella fun, but not even remotely fair. Only thing that ever stops me is nightstalker super. I'm yet to be killed by a sniper during it. Golden gun bounces off me like a rubber band and I fully heal from that after promptly crushing the hunter who shot it. I too, would prefer all other supers to be made stronger rather than nerf titans. Everything needs to feel stronger in this game than it currently does. It used to all be too much in pve so they cut us down a notch, but now we're basically all pussies, even at high level (over 300)
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well the thing is some scrub hunters literally want to nerf us to defender im fine with armor, but u have to realize titans have alot of armor, liks armor 2 inches thicker than a hujter so the decrease cna only fulfill a kill on that sniper type
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5 RepliesYou can with a high impact sniper plus WoL, it deals over 500 on headshot
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It can be one shot but I'd they get a kill during that shit there health comes back.
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Surely everyone should want each class to be balanced? That's all! Each class should have it's advantages and disadvantages in a way that all balances out. Lot's of people seem to be fighting their corner like they should be able to have a better class than the others. The statistics should even out so that the average KD for each class is as close to 1/1 as possible once adjusted for the amount of people using each class. There are enough people of all abilities using each class to get a good cross section. If one class has a much higher KD it is probably OP. I personally suck at PvP so don't really mind when I get killed by a super, OP or not. But it seems a lot of people are arguing over this subject.
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I think all 3 mobile supers (minus Golden Gun and Sunsinger) should have bladedancer health.
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Lolno. That's not how balance works.
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I've always felt since hunters get their agility in crucible why wouldn't Titans get their armor? And a Warlock spec either way.
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Your new super is meant for slaying adds. What you're asking for is the equivalent of asking for a buff to defenders. While both can be used in crucible (also your lock's super is much better in PvP than ward of dawn) this is [b]not[/b] what they were designed for.
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http://youtu.be/-WuGeb7xPmM This video proves that: A) sunbreakers actually have a really good neutral game B) hammer of sol is overpowered
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If they want to keep the armor they should not be able to jump ( as in no lift) and their sprint speed should be decreased
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You can 1 shot headshot a sun breaker with a sniper in the black hammer/efrideet's spear archetype.
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Look, more wasted Internet space.
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5 RepliesEdited by An Actual Noob: 10/5/2015 6:28:02 PMreally? stormcaller isnt strong enough? that shit lasts for like what? 20 seconds? and it can kill the entire enemy team in a split second all at the same time, and the sunbreaker isnt as hard to deal with as you might think, sure landing 2 headshots with a snipe on a flying tank is a tough thing to pull off but that super makes people become overconfident too, because there's so little that counteracts it and most of the ways that can if not all are shut down by a single hammer. earlier today i was using bladedancer for a bounty, had to get a blinkstrike backstab kill, was on vertigo in the middle, this sunbreaker pops his super and just starts running towards me, i go in and out of cover and snipe him twice in the body, then i backed off around the corner, he paid no attention to his radar and ran past me and i stabbed him in the back. what you want to do is bait him into following you into a chokepoint where you can just sit and wait for him to go around the corner, hit him in the head and then just finish him off with a primary or a grenade. giving each class an OP super would make all the other subclasses obsolete, stormcaller is strong af as it is, the overall subclass is amazing if you know how to use it, the sunbreaker however only has 1 good grenade and a good melee but the titan melee has no range at all and everything else is improving the super, thats it, thats what 15 seconds every 3 minutes that the sunbreaker class is OP, rest of the 3 mins its probably the most useless class in the game
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14 RepliesTo the people who still think Sunbreakers can't be one-shotted: That's not going to be the case anymore when armsday comes. If anyone ordered the Eirene RR4 (or whatever it's called) they will be able to one-shot headshot a Sunbreaker in the head. It has the same impact as the Black Spindle. Also, it is WAY easier to get than the Black Spindle. Also, you can even get [i]lucky[/i] and get it dropped with luck in the chamber. [spoiler]This Armsday, coming to a gunsmith near you![/spoiler]
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Warlocks super is op
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4 RepliesEdited by Major2: 10/5/2015 5:38:29 PMI'm usually the first guy to complain about OP stuff but this one has me confused. I don't see it as OP. I see it as a much needed balance as the Hunter supers have dominated since launch. Now every class has a bad ass super. Guess that is why you only see Hunters crying about it as they were so used to that huge advantage. Take away the hunters super advantage and shotguns and most of these guys wouldn't know how to get a kill.
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11 RepliesThe problem is ppl want the classes to be the same. They want to tank like a titan AND, DPS like a warlock, with invis. Choose a class deal with the issues with it and love the benefits. Bungie should clear the blurred lines of each classes role. Hos should tank anything, but it should not kill everybody else too.
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May i have 6 individual golden gun shots with life regen, and an overshield when meleee or throwing knives hit, to go please!
