Dredgen Yor was originally Jaren Ward, the owner of TLW, but passed it on to his "son"/apprentice Shin Malphur
Ward later finds the Rose, and it taints him, and he realizes it is no longer a Rose but a Thorn, and becomes Dredgen Yor.
Toland was a scholar from the city that had an interest in hive arcana. He performed actions that were forbidden by the city consensus and was exiled as a result. He tried at one point to make his own weapon of sorrow, which resulted in Bad Juju.
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Yor kills Ward, and Yor is then killed by Wards apprentice, Shin Malphur
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Pujari is Dregen
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Nope. Yor is Pujari, a warlock.
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Ward was killed by Yor, who was then killed by Ward's apprentice, Malphur.
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They just confirmed Jaren and Dredgen are separate people.
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Lol anons here with 21 others [spoiler]Pujari FTW[/spoiler]
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If you believe that you cannot read
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Yor killed Ward
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Bump, apparently someone didnt read the grimoire
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Since Dredgen kills Ward, I'd say you're wrong on that count.
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No, they aren't.
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Dredgen Yor and Jaren Ward are NOT the same person. That was always the orevaling theory and was confirmed in the grimoire cards from the expansions.
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FAAAALSE.
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Did you even read the grimoire Shin Malphur is the boy that sees Jaren Ward enter Palamon Ward takes Malphur under his wing, just as is said with "he became my third father." Once Ward acquires the Rose he gives Malphur The Last Word. As time goes on, Ward is corrupted by the Rose and later sees that it is truly the Thorn. At that point he takes the title of Dredgen Yor, and later is killed by Shin Malphur. Toland had no interactions with Shin Malphur so it's impossible for him to be Dredgen Yor. What's next, are you going to say the speaker is one of the Nine and is secretly working against us?
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Game informer just did a 9 page story article on destiny and CONFIRMED everything with Bungie. Jared Ward and Dregden Yor are NOT the same person.
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It never says that. You made up 75% of that. Dregden was hanging out with Jaren before Dreg got salty and murdered him.
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Unfortunately the game informer magazine confirmed Ward is not Yor.
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Don't read gameinformer so I wouldn't have known that However if dredgen yor killed ward at some point, it had to have been after Shin Malphur acquired TLW, or else he wouldn't have gone on to kill Yor
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[quote]Don't read gameinformer so I wouldn't have known that However if dredgen yor killed ward at some point, it had to have been after Shin Malphur acquired TLW, or else he wouldn't have gone on to kill Yor[/quote]It was on the story article on the website confirmed by Bungie. Ward dies to Yor and shin finds last word and discovers Ward is dead. He goes after Yor for justice.
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Well regardless Toland isn't Dredgen Yor, to answer the original question. Yor was a hunter, Toland a warlock Yor wielded Thorn, Toland wielded Bad Juju Yor was corrupted by darkness, and Toland was fascinated by it and studied it.
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Edited by TempusUsiku: 8/29/2015 12:10:28 AM[quote]Well regardless Toland isn't Dredgen Yor, to answer the original question. Yor was a hunter, Toland a warlock Yor wielded Thorn, Toland wielded Bad Juju Yor was corrupted by darkness, and Toland was fascinated by it and studied it.[/quote]Unmmm what...Toland??? Where the heck were people talking about Toland? I was talking about Ward and Yor..... Toland has nothing to do with Yor and Ward...
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Subject topic In my original post, I explained why Dredgen Yor wasn't Toland, and it involved the Dredgen Yor is Jaren Ward theory Of course this is Bungie forums so at least 3 people were assholes about it
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Oh, I was incredibly confused. I didn't even see the Toland part, I was focused on the Jaren and Yor stuff.