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Edited by Marshal Spectre:
7/1/2015 11:31:25 PM
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Deej, Gear Ascension is mandatory
Just watched the little IGN chat video, Deej...
How am I supposed to become a legend if I don't have a trademark weapon that becomes legendary with me?
"Being married to the same gun for 10 years sounds boring" is YOUR opinion... Some of us like the idea of having a signature weapon, and some of us, myself included, don't like where the art is going on the new weapons and armor or hate enemy-themed gear like The Dark Below kit.
If you make the new weapons and armor solid contenders, people will naturally want to acquire them, rather than being forced to by numbers... And denying a play-style because [i]You[/i] think it is boring is wrong.
The real reason the ascension system is mandatory, however, is because this isn't an MMORPG! In a standard MMO, your combat is derived from your class and augmented by the numbers provided by gear. Sure some swords might swing faster or slower, but autoattack is like 2% of your DPS and combat.
This is a shooter with live, twitch firearms... Every single one of which runs a little differently than the next. When a player finds a "favorite" gun, it isn't just his favorite [i]looking[/i] weapon, it is his favorite [i]running[/i] weapon.
I have run a custom tuned 1911 pistol in competition for almost 12 years now... Are there better modded guns out now?
Yes
Are there a lot of newer guns I have liked and have added to my collections and ran?
Yes
But the bottom line is I cannot run any gun as fast or as hard as that 1911. It has been tuned to my preferences and trained with until it is an extension of my hands, so that's the gun that I drive in matches that count... Just like Fatebringer drivers in Destiny (Or in my case Timepiece and Grim Citizen)
You cant treat Destiny like an MMO because it simply isn't one.
I would actually like an answer about plans for long term ascension, because I am done tomorrow if all my work acquiring, leveling and customizing my characters is gonna be moot in 3 months... I was done before until you announced Etheric Light.
Edit: Great comments, thank you! We are not alone, and we want an answer, Deej!
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Best post on the topic yet
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2 RepliesNo no. I do not Wana see ascending weapons
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Excellent post. Well written and well thought out with many valid points and observations. Bump of the Immortals.
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Bump. Fatebringer is my thing man! That custom fitted fate bringer and Mida multi tool and red death for me is all that matters.
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3 RepliesGeorge Washington became legendary through his actions not his clothing and weapons.
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There are no weapons in the DLC game that can compete with year one weapons but a few in Crota. So I want to see what weapons they have that can beat fatebringer, VOC, or the gally. They are doing a lot of bragging on the new weapons. So we shall see what they are doing when TTK comes out, I doubt it very seriously though.
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I am TheLordCypher and I approve this message.
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Absolutely Agree
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That Thunder AK is looking pretty sexy though
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I agree. You are custom fitted for your fatebringer so when taken king comes out and it sucks you'll have to use a new weapon (I'll will for example) that you are not fitted 2.
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I think that we should be able to ascend one gun per character, or trade that in for one raid weapon, because, like you, I like the idea of having a signature weapon, but I don't want to see everyone with all their stuff- it makes it more of a choice to sacrifice all other weapons for one-three signature(s)
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Thank goodness exotics will be ascendable. I can keep my Suros Regime, my signature weapon.
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5 RepliesThe reason we are attached to our old weapons is because bungie really shit the bed on house of wolves weapons. Replacing old perks that made weapons fun and usable with useless crap like icarus, hidden hand, and replenish? No thank you. Cascet mag? What a waste. The endgame gear sets were equally as embarrassing. I understand where bungie is coming from, wanting to keep year one in year one, but they have to deliver on future gear in order for us to want to move on. We don't know much about thenew weapons yet, but speaking for house of wolves, ascension was so crucial because the next stage of loot plain sucked.
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I'd be ok with just being able to ascend 1 Legendary gun. My signature weapon? Solar Jewel of Osiris, or as I like to call it, Banana Gun. Or for pvp, my signature gun is For the People (Glass half full, Perfect Balance, Reactive Reload). I'd love to ascend those, since those are the guns I'm known for. Everything else I could pass on. Maybe make it so u get some kind of Ascending material when TTK comes out that allows you to upgrade 1 weapon, and 1 weapon only *TitanMasterRace
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1 ReplyThey want to encourage you to use a variety of weapons instead of Fatebringer and a shotgun for 10 years
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I agree on the topic overall but disagree with the belief that destiny is an mmo. It has some mmo elements but is nowhere close to being considered a true mmo(WoW, ESO, FFiv)
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It's not [i]mandatory[/i], but the community requests it.
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Thermonuclear BUMP!!
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I personally think bungie messed up the year one weapon balance which they recognised to fix this, they are leaving the weapons behind. I'm ok with the old weapons not going forward, so long as the new ones are balanced correctly!!
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I fully support this post, very well worded. I hope Bungie agrees, plus if people don't want to use old gear in TTK then the don't have to. Let it be an option to all of us, but not all of us has to feel obligated to stick with our old gear!
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4 RepliesI sincerely hope the silence on this issue is due to Bungie scrambling to come up with a proper solution/compromise on this issue.
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Bump! We want to ascend our weapons, MAKE IT HAPPEN BUNGIE!!
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3 RepliesWell I guess I won't be playing much longer. The reason people hold on to the old gear is because the new gear is shit. They are nerfing everything and removing perks like field scout and adding stupid useless perks that are super situational or have a low chance of happening so u can't rely on it. If they make a new elemental handcannon with firefly and similar stats to fate bringer I wouldn't be so upset about letting it go. Word was a step down and dreg six is even worse. I don't want any new guns because they are trash.
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Edited by AMGS8: 8/11/2015 10:57:17 AMI'd bet the vast majority of people just want to increase the viable options for play not be funneled into new gear only. I like the look of a lot of the new stuff as additions to my game, not as replacements though. That said it's a cool way to look at gear, having something you like so much it's as much of your guardian identity as your gamer tag.
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It's become unnecessarily essential to collect EVERYTHING. Reason being that one patch Buffs something, Nerfs another. Then the following patch does the complete opposite. That shows Bungie's inexperience as a AAA developer. By no means should a realistic Handcannon have tremendous range, but this is a sci-fi game after all and whatever doesn't make sense, usually does. That being said, I expected a lot more variety in weapon creation and balancing prior launch. However, getting back to reality, no one has the time to devote enough time to this game to grind through ridiculous quests and Raids (Necrochasm, anyone?) for 10 long, monotonous years. I WANT Bungie to motivate me to come back to playing this game because of a good story, deep weapon customization, while offering tough, but doable challenges (VoG is a perfect example). I WANT to come back in another year and pick up where I left off with the weapons I have. So far, I am not seeing a viable reason to play beyond Year One regardless of said promises that have a track record of falling short (e.g. last two expansions). Destiny's consecutive expansions may appeal to the pre-pubescent masses out to measure their phallic size while ravaging their parent's wallets. But for adult players who almost always see their own true "assessment of value" will see the lame cash grab for what it truly is. Destiny is a year old car with a lot of miles, buggy new parts, and a new paint job. Sorry, not interested.
