ESO was a let down on PC. Tried it on console and it felt and looked god awful. But destiny is not a perfect game either and plenty still play it (Myself included). If anything we shouldn't hate on destiny and ESO because they are trail blazing something that hasn't happened on consoles. MMO's. yes destiny is the softest of MMO's and barely rides the edge of that definition. ESO is a full blown MMO, something that hasn't happened on consoles since FF. This is a good sign for consoles. Once another dev picks up this genre and makes it specifically for cross console play with fluid controls and such it may be a game changer in the gaming ethos.