So I'm about to sound like a prick. TL:DR [spoiler]I want to know how to find a clan with players of my level, I don't expect professional, just actually decent.[/spoiler] Is there a way to find out if clans actually have good players? I'm looking for folks to do ToO with, but the issue is every time I do Iron Banner (usually just matchmade) I would (9/10) do the best of everyone on both teams, sometime by a large margin, and still lose the majority of matches. I'm really not at all interested in dealing with that in ToO and would rather skip it than go through that mess. So yeah, I want to know of there is a way to see if a clan is actually good, or clans that actually monitor who gets in (god that sounds so elitist and terrible) rather then just creating a list of players to add. I'd have to practice a fair few rounds to get back up to my peak ability, (I don't really do PvP much anymore for the above reasons) but while not pro level, when I am at my best I very rarely come across folks who match my ability. Ideally it would be nice to be one of the less good players for once. As much as it may sound like the opposite, I'm not a high pressure person to play with, and I don't judge people for not being good. I'm just not interested in actually grouping up with people if they are going to make me lose the match. I can't think of a way to say that that doesn't sound terrible but I don't mean it in a bad way haha Disclaimer: I don't really do organized training or anything like that. I'd just want a group of players who are all reasonably good and down to play with those who happen to be on at the time.