Not being antagonistic here... but i dont see a whole lot of people able to get those 2 head shots and leave someone to die with thorn. Everyone has one in crucible... but most I've seen are three shots to kill. I know thorn has the 2 shot kill capability... but I just dont see it. Hawkmoon on the other hand can kill in two shots body or not, depending on your luck. Honestly I prefer tlw. But mostly because I suck at pvp and need the speed to help my crap aim. :)