Hawkmoon: Chance to crit 120+, otherwise 3 shot kill (Exception of the 1 hit kill which is very rare) Thorn: Always does 100+ crit (adding DoT dmg), guaranteed 2 crit shot kill, lingering damage which negates shield regen and shows enemy location, faster fire rate Overall thorn is superior in every way, there isn't much to argue. I dismantled mine last night actually, it just feels too wrong using it imo. If I come across a full fire team of thorn, then yeah I'll take a deep breath and know to expect an annoying match. Come across a full fire team of Hawkmoons, Last words, or Mythoclasts? I got no problem with it --------------------------------------------------- I ask yall, what would be a reasonable balance for Thorn? Only way I see it is reducing the DoT damage, it HAS to have some type of DoT since that is what makes it Exotic.