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5/4/2015 2:41:38 AM
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well I'll be damned! If it isn't a 'Nerf Thorn' post. Haven't seen one of these since about 2 minutes ago.
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It does need a nerf (stability at the least) imo. DOT is fine though. Really don't like it when people want to nerf that...
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let an exotic be an exotic, and work with it, or around it. Just like real life.
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Edited by Poeghostz: 5/4/2015 2:50:20 AMIt was exotic before the buff and actually had an identity unique to that gun. Because of the stability buff, it is now a TLW clone. Exotics should be unique amongst other guns and Thorn isn't as unique anymore. Reduce its stability to pre-buff status so that you can't rapid fire it anymore, and we'll have the TRUE Thorn back. Still just as good, but more unique.
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The last word and thorn are completely different and unique on their own and require very different play styles.
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ATM both are used as rapid fire, spam machines. No one really bothers much with aiming either because both of them have large, forgiving rate of fire and stability.
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I'm done talking to you since you are obviously part of the population of forum users that is stereotypical and for the most part is only whining because he got wrecked in a game with one person who was skilled in using thorn. Believe me I know what it's like. Somehow I got in a game with someone who was using Athen's Epilogue and we were dumbfound by how well he was doing. Did I whine? Yeah it pissed me off. Did I post a bitchy forum post to let every here know I was whining? Of course not.
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Not whining. Asking for a fair, legit nerf. I've probably been using Thorn longer then you've had the gun; I know what's good and bad about it. The buff gave it way too much when it was already very good. Whiners ask for nerfs with no suggestions on what; people who want to make the game better make realistic, insightful suggestions.
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Considering you were reluctant to check my stats, I'll inform you that I have almost double the amount of kills that you do with it. I've played this game since day one and thorn was my first exotic. Trust me when I tell you that I've used it longer. 1/8ish of my total kills in this game are with thorn. I know how it performed before it's buff. I agree with that thorn needed a buff because it was underpowered before as did most of the community or else it wouldn't have been buffed. I think thorn is in a good place in the game right now.
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Fair enough; you have more experience than me. There aren't many who can say they've used Thorn a lot (including pre-buff) cause of the general view that it was garbage. So hopefully you understand my skip to conclusions. Guess I just prefer the way Thorn worked pre-buff. The 2 head shot burn kills were key to using it well; and I loved that. Now with the stability, you rarely bother waiting for the burn to take them cause you can just fire fire fire with that stability. Could be worse I guess :)
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Also, with only 6 in the mag, getting that final round was much easier and even when swarmed, you could usually prevail because you could get to the final round quicker.
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I understand how you feel but I don't think you fully understand the buff. Before the buff, it wasn't a 2 shot kill because you did les damage with the DOT. Yes it required more skill with landing shots, but it took more shots.
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The DOT was the same before they "accidentally" nerfed it. Bringing up the DOT back to where it was when the gun was first released (which came with the other buffs) wasn't a buff; it was justice on whatever the hell that was XD
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Ahh ok ok I guess I was wrong on that part but never the less while the DOT was lower, and that was the main reason why it was needed a buff
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You know on top of putting the DOT back to normal they increase the clip, reload speed and stability right? The DOT "buff" was just a given (they nerfed a weapon that was the most requested for a buff XD).
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Yes I'm aware lol. The mag went from 6 to 9 and the reload was a given because with so few shots you can't possibly have such a low reload and the gun be useful. But my point still stands. Why exactly is thorn being bitched about recently? 1 reason: Iron Banner. People just got mad that their SUROS couldn't compete anymore. Which all goes back to the auto rifle nerfs that were uncalled for because of WHEN they nerfed them. You can't make 1 class of weapon worthless then buff another to the extreme. I think they should be brought to their former glory because it won't actually be glory any more because Thorn, TLW, Red death, and bad juju ect. can all compete now.
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Valid points. I'll concede: it doesn't [i]really[/i] need a nerf. Anyways; Bad JuJu has filled the void that my old Thorn left. My new fast killing, sniper primary :)
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Lol cool. I'm open to a lot of weapons and enjoy mixing it up but the fact that 1/8ish (over 10000) of my total kills in this game are with Thorn makes me a little biased and defensive :)
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Fair enough. I'd hate it if they tried to adjust my MIDA in any bad ways. There are probably more important things, like non-exotic exotics. NLB and SGA both come to mind. NLB's "exotic" perk is just plain pointless. SGA is just stupid too. Why make a HMG with average impact, terrible range and awful stability then justify it with a perk that returns most missed shots? I'd rather hit something and actually kill it! They should really give SGA absolutely broken ass impact that shreds anything IF you actually manage to hit it. I'd use that thing.
