I believe that bungie needs to go back on the critical hit ratio nerf they had done awhile back... Ever since they had lowered that with auto rifles, things went downhill fast... It would encourage people to aim for head shots again. Hard light, for example these days does 16 to the body and 19 to the head with its beginning ballistics ( I use aggressive ballistics which bumps it up in impact alil). Otherwise, with the headshot multiplier restored it may go back up 2-3 points of damage and becoming at least alil more sustainable... For example, why use a low damage auto rifle when you can use the (full auto) pulse rifle Oversoul Edict that shoots so fast that it feels like an auto rifle but has a much better damage output thanks to its buff to pulse rifles? I love my Bad juju, I was using it for two months prior to the pulse rifle buff even being mentioned... And when the update hit I had two fully upgraded BJ's (ha!) and people were barely pulling out their dusty ones out of their vaults to replicate the ownage I had done to them... Bungie didn't balance anything by lowering Auto rifles again... They simply swapped the problem... I can honestly say that Auto rifles could possibly go back to their original performance from game release now with little hate, due to the other primaries being buffed over time. Auto rifles deserve a buff and need to be removed from the table as a potential target for follow up nerfs. After that, Bungie just needs to leave them the -blam!- alone... Thank you for reading, and please leave a comment for me to reply to on your thoughts. :)
Edit #1: As Bungie had stated in the news wire they had a bunch of revamping and weapon balancing amongst other things to take care of up to the release of the Taken King DLC, which if I might add, looks very promising. Hopefully Bungie will keep to their word and balance out the weapons over time until the Taken King DLC comes out (hopefully including an Auto rifle buff somewhere down the road). I hope that everyone that is in support of this post will continue to bump and support it until the buff to auto rifles is done. We can almost be sure that the balancing update they've spoken of will involve an Auto rifle buff. So please everyone, if you agree with this post, vote accordingly and leave a comment. We're so close to getting what we want and what auto rifles deserve... Thank you. :)
Edit #2: We have finally been heard by Bungie! Thanks to everyone for your support and I hope that you look for my name when on the Feedback forum again once we finally get the balances applied for any other concerns!!! And again, thank you ALL!!! :)
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I love you so much. Thank you for getting a relatively good amount of support for this. They REALLY need it.
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The damage very much needs to go back up by the 4.5% they sliced off. Make Auto Rifles useful again. Bungie, stop with the goddamn nerfs!
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I'll take all this, if just for PvE. I don't care about the Crucible one bit.
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SOMETHING needs to be done with them to make them more competent. As of right now, no one I know or have ever fought against uses them, except maybe a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, VERY small portion of people in the Crucible. The only thing they're good at in PvE is Abyss Defiant against wizards - and that's only because of the wizard disruptor perk.
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Please check out this weapon balancing article and give feedback. It's a good read, thanks. https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/117004290/0/0
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the last AR nerf was lik 10-15% damage reduction, or something lik that. i think that restoring lik half that back would be perfect. the headshot multiplier would prob do the trick too
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Are you listening Bungie? People want this. So get on it.
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I voted for the original settings as I would like to see Day 1 Suros vs. Current Red Death.
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AR went the way of the H1 Pistol. The creators got owned by it and nerfed it out of spite. Then blamed it on balancing the game. I can see the range nerf but the damage nerf is too great. RIP EXOTIC AND LEGENDARY Auto Rifles. May you collect dust in peace.
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I hug my Suros everyday because Bungie hates all auto rifles.
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I'm with you, I don't bring auto into PvP anymore.
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restore auto-rifle !!! Bump you Deej
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Buff AR
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Bring the ARs up to the Pulse Rifle to match them. Pulse rifles are basically just burst fire ARs anyway. Think the balance would feel about right in Crucible then...maybe..
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Bump!
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I really do wish theyed say they re-buffed then placebo your whiny asses by saying they never did and you guys didnt notice and actually see how futile these posts are they arent going to do it end of story
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Just nerf everything except auto rifles
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Bring back the damage, but keep the range nerf