I believe that bungie needs to go back on the critical hit ratio nerf they had done awhile back... Ever since they had lowered that with auto rifles, things went downhill fast... It would encourage people to aim for head shots again. Hard light, for example these days does 16 to the body and 19 to the head with its beginning ballistics ( I use aggressive ballistics which bumps it up in impact alil). Otherwise, with the headshot multiplier restored it may go back up 2-3 points of damage and becoming at least alil more sustainable... For example, why use a low damage auto rifle when you can use the (full auto) pulse rifle Oversoul Edict that shoots so fast that it feels like an auto rifle but has a much better damage output thanks to its buff to pulse rifles? I love my Bad juju, I was using it for two months prior to the pulse rifle buff even being mentioned... And when the update hit I had two fully upgraded BJ's (ha!) and people were barely pulling out their dusty ones out of their vaults to replicate the ownage I had done to them... Bungie didn't balance anything by lowering Auto rifles again... They simply swapped the problem... I can honestly say that Auto rifles could possibly go back to their original performance from game release now with little hate, due to the other primaries being buffed over time. Auto rifles deserve a buff and need to be removed from the table as a potential target for follow up nerfs. After that, Bungie just needs to leave them the -blam!- alone... Thank you for reading, and please leave a comment for me to reply to on your thoughts. :)
Edit #1: As Bungie had stated in the news wire they had a bunch of revamping and weapon balancing amongst other things to take care of up to the release of the Taken King DLC, which if I might add, looks very promising. Hopefully Bungie will keep to their word and balance out the weapons over time until the Taken King DLC comes out (hopefully including an Auto rifle buff somewhere down the road). I hope that everyone that is in support of this post will continue to bump and support it until the buff to auto rifles is done. We can almost be sure that the balancing update they've spoken of will involve an Auto rifle buff. So please everyone, if you agree with this post, vote accordingly and leave a comment. We're so close to getting what we want and what auto rifles deserve... Thank you. :)
Edit #2: We have finally been heard by Bungie! Thanks to everyone for your support and I hope that you look for my name when on the Feedback forum again once we finally get the balances applied for any other concerns!!! And again, thank you ALL!!! :)
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How to fix auto rifles: -restore the base damage it had at launch -keep range nerf. Maybe tweak some stability for the higher ROF ones -Hard Light exotic perk needs to be "Adaptable Light: shooting an elemental shield causes all bullets to be that element for a limited amount of time" -Necrochasm needs a complete revamp Easy
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I'm a huge fan of hard light and totally agree. I even have mine ascended and feel it's still lacking. It is no more effective (if even as effective) than my 331 fang. That's just wrong.
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I think this needs to be based on the time to kill instead of percentages. Match hand cannons for time to kill and do it on all primary weapons. That will level the playing field and open the game up to using other weapons. Right now, hand cannons are the go-to for anyone in crucible and end-game content simply because they kill faster than any other primary weapon type.
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Daily bump and grind. Come on bungie. Do the right thing.
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Bump, was pumped to use my up for anything then was let down by how much it sucked, got suros and it was fun for a week until I realised how badly I was performing with it because of the low damage output.
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Bump !!!!!!
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Bump!
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Edited by TheLateNightGuy: 5/24/2015 7:48:01 AMA "real world" assault rifle can kill something at 300 yards with 1 shot. By comparison the ARs in Destiny are the cheap plastic pellet guns you buy at Walmart. Peltpeltpeltpeltpeltpelt...."gah $&#%, quit it already!" Yeah they need the 14% damage that got shaved off back.
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Bungie logic 1 thorn shot will drop you to 25 percent health Nerf auto rifles Not to mention you can snipe someone with Thorn, like is the round even aerodynamic?
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I've taken to calling my Suros and 'assist-dispenser' because that is all it really does
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Just make them fun to use again. I used to love using my shadow price for pop and couldn't wait to upgrade it to the max but now it isn't worth it. At least make them equal to the other guns or if they already are make them better than they are now.
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Auto rifles didn't need a nerf in the first place, everything else just needed the buffs that they got... Leave everything else alone now, and crank auto rifles back up! I have a 365 Grim Citizen III that I am dying to have not suck again!
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Bump the -blam!- out of this!
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Bumpity bump
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I agree with you there is a problem when I use a rare pulse rifle and is doing better than hard light and suros
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Hope someone fixes it
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I use the new vanguard auto rifle in the crucible and it totally wrecks
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They wont because admiting your wrong to 10 million people is hard and impossible once your over 40.