I believe that bungie needs to go back on the critical hit ratio nerf they had done awhile back... Ever since they had lowered that with auto rifles, things went downhill fast... It would encourage people to aim for head shots again. Hard light, for example these days does 16 to the body and 19 to the head with its beginning ballistics ( I use aggressive ballistics which bumps it up in impact alil). Otherwise, with the headshot multiplier restored it may go back up 2-3 points of damage and becoming at least alil more sustainable... For example, why use a low damage auto rifle when you can use the (full auto) pulse rifle Oversoul Edict that shoots so fast that it feels like an auto rifle but has a much better damage output thanks to its buff to pulse rifles? I love my Bad juju, I was using it for two months prior to the pulse rifle buff even being mentioned... And when the update hit I had two fully upgraded BJ's (ha!) and people were barely pulling out their dusty ones out of their vaults to replicate the ownage I had done to them... Bungie didn't balance anything by lowering Auto rifles again... They simply swapped the problem... I can honestly say that Auto rifles could possibly go back to their original performance from game release now with little hate, due to the other primaries being buffed over time. Auto rifles deserve a buff and need to be removed from the table as a potential target for follow up nerfs. After that, Bungie just needs to leave them the -blam!- alone... Thank you for reading, and please leave a comment for me to reply to on your thoughts. :)
Edit #1: As Bungie had stated in the news wire they had a bunch of revamping and weapon balancing amongst other things to take care of up to the release of the Taken King DLC, which if I might add, looks very promising. Hopefully Bungie will keep to their word and balance out the weapons over time until the Taken King DLC comes out (hopefully including an Auto rifle buff somewhere down the road). I hope that everyone that is in support of this post will continue to bump and support it until the buff to auto rifles is done. We can almost be sure that the balancing update they've spoken of will involve an Auto rifle buff. So please everyone, if you agree with this post, vote accordingly and leave a comment. We're so close to getting what we want and what auto rifles deserve... Thank you. :)
Edit #2: We have finally been heard by Bungie! Thanks to everyone for your support and I hope that you look for my name when on the Feedback forum again once we finally get the balances applied for any other concerns!!! And again, thank you ALL!!! :)
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The only reason they stuffed up was cause so many people were complaining about guns like vex and suros in PVP! They tried their best to give people what they wanted and now you guys complain it's sucks cause a lot of you have those weapons now compared to when you's didn't.. The same thing will happen to hand cannons and shotguns soon, they'll never making it perfect only cause people will always complain about something.. They should of left it how it was when the game released, when PVP was actually enjoyable..
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Give them back another 2.5% damage. Not the full 4.5%
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If they do rebuff the auto rifles, my Shadow Price will return in full glory!
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Give them back another 2.5% damage. Not the full 4.5%
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Edited by WatchDoge: 4/30/2015 1:14:15 AMRestore the last nerf and they are perfect. Dont touch them ever again. I hate being beat by a scout rifle at close range :/ (sarcasm, but was way close)
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Beeump
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Bump Deej
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BUMP Auto rifles should be restored!
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Reverse the last damage nerf and give back the 1.5 critical hit multiplier. The earlier nerfs to range and stability and base damage were justified, and made it so that their bodyshot ttk was in line with other weapons. However auto rifles headshot ttk is horrible compared to all other primaries. Also bring back the larger maps in control and clash. Of course long range auto rifles can get kills over long areas on the smaller maps. The same can't be said for long ranges on the larger maps. The stability and range nerfs need to stay. The range nerf actually only made range more representative of its stat i.e. low range autos got reduced range while long range autos saw little effect. Thus making this stat actually matter.
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Is this, by chance, the Dreadful Dre of Xbox 360?
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I agree since Nerf don't use auto rifles as they are useless now in PVE
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I feel if they did this u would see a more even playing field in crucible.
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Restore back for PVE and restore last buff for PVP.
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I say a mix of giving some body damage back and upping the crit rate to 1.5x
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They took the auto rifle out of the game. They are so clueless. Own up to your mistake bungie and correct it.
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Bump. Take back the last nerf. All they needed to do was buff pulse rifles and leave it at that. ARs didn't need to be touched. I think they were fine at that point. They were a little strong at game release.
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1.5% critical damage is literally insane. When I saw that number when they announced the patch i said "1.5%??? Holy shit, what were they thinking?" Basically if it were at 1.5% i would immediately dismantle everything in my inventory that wasn't an auto rifle. There would literally be zero point in using any other gun class
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ARs can't be the way they were at release. That's too strong. I think they should be at the middle ground between how they are now and how they were before the nerf.
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ARs will remain nerfed as long as there's at least one crybaby in the Crucible.
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Oh my god just stop whining and bungle will fix it. All of the mixed feedback is going to confuse them. Bungle knows there is a problem, they have never completely ignored reasonable feedback, leave them alone and they will make AR usable again. I am exited to dust off my shadow price and SUROS when this happens
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I believe we need to find a true balance between all gun types.. Where all their TTK's are equal.. Therefore raw skill would prevail (Classic halo arena gameplay) All those voting for buffing to pre-release IMO lack skill.. Having to use autorifles that a full auto and TTK faster than other gun types are just made for unskilled players.. Grow some balls and learn how to use a more useful fun type