I mean has anyone ever went through the beginning not using 1 lamp and winning. Cheeses and hunters allotted. I'm betting I could do it on normal with a team and revives, but hard not for me. Well challenge time, 1st. Do Crota Raid HM 2nd: Use any and all cheeses to avoid all the lamps. 3rd. If possible, kill the Ogre or Just Wait. You can blink across the bridge if the darkness isn't to bad. You are allowed to use the second lamp to jump on top or Only One lamp if HM. Easy = No lamps. I would try if I wasn't visiting family for 3 days. 4th: Name it: DarknessObeysNoOne. 5th: Winner will receive a $10 dollar Microsoft Card 6th: Ends When I get a Job. ;-)